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the first one looks like English coin or a token with Georgios the first, silver 26μm 6,7g. the second coin looks like Japanese sen or korean 28.8 μm bronze, any information it will be helpfull, thank you     |
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The British one is not a regal issue coin. It has the royal arms on the reverse, when George I silver coins had 4 small shields arrayed around a star. Coins below 6d in value and maundy coins had a large crowned numeral. I dont know what it is.. maybe a commemorative piece of some sort.
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09/10/2018 3:06 pm
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yes that's right, I've already checked the coin catalogue and I think that is a token but I was not able to find anything similar,
or it can also be from the british colonies
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I don't think this is a British colonial coin. George I reigned 1714-27, which is very early in the colonial period. There were very few colonies at that time. I have checked my catalogues and cannot find anything matching this.
This token(?) only has design elements relevant to mainland Britain.
I am intrigued and would very much like to know what it is.
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First one is some sort of jeton and may not even be of British origin.
Second one is a modern fantasy piece. Design is that of a 1911 China Empire 10 cash, but denomination shown appears to be "1 fen", year 3 date is missing and other elements are wrong.
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09/13/2018 09:44 am
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Thank you all for your help,
even if it is a British jeton or not it will for sure be listed in some catalogue,
about the second coin I will agree with Numismat that it is a fantasy coin,
in the link of the nunista the inner cycle in reverse is with dots and not a line and the size is 27mm.
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I guess I should not have said "could be genuine" without taking a good closeup look.
It's more likely to be a present day fake or imitation of the pattern coin seen in Numista.
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Having looked again at the first coin I note the following.
It is slightly larger and heavier than the shilling, but far too small for the halfcrown. The top of the head interrupts the text. On all silver regal coins down to the 6d, the bust was small enough so that the text was unbroken. The bottom edge of the right shoulder has vertical lines suggesting the roman-style shoulder armour. Regal issues had horizontal lines more like late mediaeval plate armour.
Most interesting are the hair ribbons at the back of the laurel wreath. This piece has a single end over a loop. The 1st style regal bust used on coins had two single ends. The 2nd style used on shillings only from 1723 had a loop over a single end.
In 1714 an official coronation medal by J Croker was issued, much larger than this at 34mm, more detailed and with a different reverse. The style of the bust is close to the style of this piece, especially in the way it interrupts the text and the vertical armour lines on the shoulder.
I wonder if whoever produced the obverse of this piece modelled it on Croker's work rather than a regal issue coin. It could be a jeton, but I wonder if it might be a privately produced keepsake or commemorative piece.
In modern days every time there is a royal event, there is an outpouring of unofficial junk souvenirs designed to extract money from the pockets of the gullible public. Is this a piece of 18th century souvenir bling?
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