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1914 George V Shilling

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I came across this today in a coin shop's "junk" silver bin. It seemed to me rather a bit too nice to have merited being relegated there.

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A bit blotchy, but I'd certainly agree.
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I would love to search that coin shop junk bins you score every time. Nice find
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Very nice coin!
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Yeah you got exceptionally lucky there.
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Since nobody has yet ventured to assign this an actual grade, I'm going to take a stab at it.

It's my understanding that the crown tends to be the focal point for determining how much wear one of these has sustained. On my specimen, I see two specific locations that appear to have been abraded.

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Taking those flattened spots into account, I'd still judge that here in the U.S. a dealer would represent this on the Sheldon scale as no less than AU50, and given the current market grading bias, I'd expect that might well be the floor if it was certified by NGC or PCGS. I wouldn't expect the toning to detract from such a grade.

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It's my understanding that the crown tends to be the focal point for determining how much wear one of these has sustained. On my specimen, I see two specific locations that appear to have been abraded.

Correct. George V coins are the "easiest" Australian coins to grade because the crown provides a nice continuum of wear points that one can easily check against. The ANDA grading guide PDF has pointers on how to grade them.

According to the Guide, if the two pearls to the left of the central diamond on the headband (located where the lower arrow on your pic is) have worn away completely, then the coin does not grade above Very Fine. On that basis, I think an EF-40 or 45 Sheldon grade might be more appropriate.
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I agree, 40 or 45 tops.
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...if the two pearls to the left of the central diamond on the headband...have worn away completely...

They're not wholly obliterated, remaining discernible albeit somewhat on the faint side.

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It's okay.

The obverse holds it down a shade, but NGC would give that AU50 or possibly 53.

No way it'd be under 45
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I would have said aEF - not a whole lot of wear (especially on the reverse) but weak pearls and orb on the crown (possibly filled?).
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Extremely Fine-Little wear is evident on the high points of design and lettering. All fine detail can be seen and a few scratches may be found from rough handling in modern minting processes. Some mint bloom or lustre may be seen. A aEF (About Extremely Fine) coin will bear most of the characteristics of a EF coin but will exhibit wear easily seen with the naked eye..Coin is a late strike due to week definition of kings robe,two rim nicks on the obverse,detracting mark under king. Dont know if NGC-PCGS lower a grade by one number if coin is weekly struck. I would grade this coin as EF Week Strike.
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EF-45
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