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 Posted 09/19/2018  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Across the top of UNIT(ed), is that a die break or just a scratch? Small one on the top (back side) also. (1st pic) Does that add/subtract from grading/value?


That is a die crack. It definitely does not decrease the grade/value, in fact some collectors especially like coins with die breaks.
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 Posted 09/19/2018  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is actually one of my culls,


Better look up the meaning of "cull". Looks like an easy MS63 to me.
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 Posted 09/19/2018  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pretty descent Morgan to me.

I would say MS63. I don't see a rub from the pictures.

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 Posted 09/19/2018  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could go 63. Nice coin. Great find. Looking forward to that 95-O!
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Thanks again ya'll! I find the die crack very interesting, gives it nice personality. I will have to see if any of the others have those. I see I have a lot to learn. First is to figure out how to get better pics with this S7 cell phone/camera. I've looked at some of the microscopes suggested through-out the many posts, might look for a low power one to connect to the laptop. I guess calling it my cull is the wrong term to use. I will refrain and start calling them my extras.
Do alot of coins have those cracks? I may have to start up an album of cracks(like I need another hobby). Think my wife would appreciate it if I told her I was becoming a crack hunter? LOL, sorry, bad joke.
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bandsdean, I will post a few coins first, learn to do it right, get good pics. I don't want to do the 95 injustice with bad pics. Right now it's my prized possession coin wise.
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Do alot of coins have those cracks? I may have to start up an album of cracks(like I need another hobby).


Yes. You can read more about Morgan and Peace dollar varieties, called VAMs, here - http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...om/wiki/Home
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It appears you have what I call VAMmer's eye, an eye for detail. If you want to dig deeper the link SD2017 posted is your rabbit hole..

Also, your Morgan you posted appears to be a VAM-6.http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...1896-P_VAM-6
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Cool, more info to confuse this old phart. If this coin is a 63, with the die cracks, and the VAM 6, what would be the value of this coin? The Blue Book says it's at 42, what is true value if I sell it with these marks?
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VAM-6 is a common variety adding no additional value other than the neat factor. A good place to check retail value is ebay sold auctions for raw 1896 Morgans.

edit to add - and pardon my manners, to CCF...
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Looking at the photo, I'm curious. Across the top of UNIT(ed), is that a die break or just a scratch?


It can sometimes be hard to tell this from a photo, but it's usually easy to tell with the coin in hand. Scratches dig into the coin and create a "valley". Die breaks let metal flow where it shouldn't have during the striking process and create raised features on the coin.
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Slowly learning. Tried another coin, on a printer white sheet. Did it in a dark(er) room with only a full spectrum light and every picture came out a yellow... did not take long to delete those pics. It is stormy outside so not much light. What would be a better light?
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LEDs, Incandescentflorescents go yellow/orange
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What would be a better light?


IMHO taking good pictures of coins is really difficult. You might want to check out the Coin Photography, Image Editing, and Related Software forum. LOTS of good info there on lighting, cameras, cell phone cameras, etc.
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