Just A Thought: Where Are The P/P Repunched Mint Mark / RPM S?

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Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4396 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 5:57 pm If mintmarks were added by hand until 1990, where are the Philadelphia repunched mintmarks? (Disregarding the wartime nickels) There was a P mintmark on nickels, dimes, quarters, and half dollars from 1980 until 1989 and dollars from 1979 until 1981. So where are the RPMs?! Just an interesting thought I had. Do they not exist, are they impossible, or could there be some out there? Edited by Tanman2001 09/25/2018 6:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 6:03 pm Excellent thought Tanman! I have yet to see anything posted about an true RPM for those years and when someone thinks they have one the answer is always the same, MD. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73937 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 6:30 pm There are RPM's, but it seems to not happen on the Philadelphia ones. http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...intmarks.htm http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...9DRPM001.htm Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4396 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 7:23 pm Quote: it seems to not happen on the Philadelphia ones. That's my point, there are none listed. Could they exist? Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 7:25 pm Aliens do, don't they? Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73937 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 7:26 pm They might exist, but maybe nobody has discovered one yet, or they didn't bother to submit them. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 7:49 pm Having done some leather and metal punching years ago, I have a theory. It all has to do with shape. 1) the puncheon is tapered, end being skinnier than base depth. 2) shape of P... has a long thin flat leg with ellipsis on top, D has flat side with ellipsis connected to ends, almost a circle. 3) punching were generally multiple taps to set correct depth. The P because of leg would NOT be subject to rotating movement with each additional tap. The D on the other hand could be rotated when insertion for addition taps since tip is smaller than hole caused by first tap. When considering the P mintmark on war nicks...again it is shape and depth here. The mark puncheon being larger, has flat sides and shallow depth, I can see a possibility of twisting and getting "outside of the box" on a second punch. Edited by Crazyb0 09/25/2018 7:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 10:11 pm I know there are some on the War Nickels, so if you want a P/P then you might want to go after one of those. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 09/25/2018 10:17 pm That's an interesting question! I do see that VV has a column for P-Mint Jefferson nickel RPMs from 80-89 (recognizing the possibility), but there is no column for other denominations that could be affected. This is what is said on error-ref: Quote: There are other mint marks (P, O, CC, etc.) that have been repunched, but the majority of RPMs are found with either the S or D mint mark. I don't think I buy the shape argument. Considering the vast quantity of dies that would have been prepared to create P-Mint nickels, dimes, quarters and halves for 10 years and the dollar for three years, I find it hard to believe that no single mistake was ever made. Heck, the Philly Mint seems to produce more errors than the others, anyway. My question is: how many people are searching these years/denoms for RPMs to even find one? I would venture to guess that the majority of RPM/OMM searchers aren't looking at '80s coins. This may be a reach, but the majority of those who do search likely only search cents. Another thought: I would think that Mint employees experienced in punching dies with an S or D may have trouble, at least at the beginning, punching the new P. That adds more to the possibility that errors were likely made. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Edited by spru 09/25/2018 10:21 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 09/26/2018 11:33 am Quote: I would venture to guess that the majority of RPM/OMM searchers aren't looking at '80s coins. This may be a reach, but the majority of those who do search likely only search cents. I am guilty of searching only the cents, so this possibility is extremely likely. I agree that there had to be some mistake, but the severity of the RPM is up for debate. Report this Post to the Staff
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Just A Thought: Where Are The P/P RPMS?