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New Member
United States
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at my local coin shop I'm thinkin of buying a 3legged Buffalo nickel. its unslabbed in fine condition. i was offered 775?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The three legged 1937-D Buffalo is one of the most counterfieted coins around today. It is relatively easy to alter a normal four legged coin to resemble this very valuable poorly struck variety. I would not buy an unslabbed coin from a dealer or an individual that had not been submitted to a major TPG to check the authenticity. Why not offer the dealer his asking price, provided that he get it slabbed first? His reaction should tell you all you need to know. That is my opinion anyway. Caveat Emptor!
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Valued Member
United States
79 Posts |
Yup, I would ask for it to be slabbed first
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New Member
United States
42 Posts |
I would pay $2.00 for a bank roll of nickels and hope! 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: It is relatively easy to alter a normal four legged coin to resemble this very valuable poorly struck variety. It's also usually very easy to spot altered pieces since you practically have to rework almost the entire reverse of the coin to do it right. What would I pay for one? About three dollars. I have no great interest in an overpolished late die state of a coin that isn't a variety or even a die variety.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: TOPIC TITLE : What would pay for a 1937-d 3-legged buffalo? Well..... money...... Money would pay for this coin I believe.......(i don't know what else you'd pay with !..  )  .....  Hee Hee.....just kidding !..... Ummm....yeah....you'd better have it certified and guaranteed BEFORE you make a financial commitment you might regret in the future !.. 
Edited by eaglefoot 07/15/2008 1:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1083 Posts |
Got to agree with Conder, I think the inclusion of the three legged Buffalo in a set or album is all just a marketing ploy. A coin that is the result of an over polished die is not a variety and should not be required to complete a set. I feel the same way about the 1922 NO D Lincoln Cent. Over stamped dates I am a little more ambivalent about. I think the 1918/7 Buffalo is an error. Why include just this over struck date as there are others that have been discovered in the Buffalo series that aren't included? What gives with that? If this is the result of an accident, as it almost always is in modern coinage, than I say leave it out. In older type coins such as Large cents, over strikes were usually intentional in order to continue the use of dies that had not worn out. In my mind that makes them a valid variety, technically required to complete a set. They were intentionally produced. The nice thing about coin collecting is we have the right to personally define what we require to complete a set. It cost enough just to obtain the keys without having to chase outrageously priced errors as if they were necessary to complete a set. Error collecting is a valid pursuit in numismatics, but error coins should not be required in a regular date and mint mark set. Maybe this should be a separate thread? Peace.
Edited by okie-colin 07/15/2008 3:58 pm
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 United States
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Quote:Got to agree with Conder, I think the inclusion of the three legged Buffalo in a set or album is all just a marketing ploy. A coin that is the result of an over polished die is not a variety and should not be required to complete a set. I feel the same way about the 1922 NO D Lincoln Cent. Count me in as well. My Buffalo album is a custom one I put together (with the IHC and Mercury dimes as well). I left no room for the 3-legged or any other "varieties". Date-Mint only.  As for the 1922-D "Plain" hole in my LHC album, well, that is a sore spot with me. I have decided that I have no problem finding a reasonably priced "weak D" to put in there.
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Valued Member
United States
100 Posts |
I agree with everyone else. Have him get it authenticated and then buy it if it is not a fake.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
838 Posts |
Hear hear! I couldn't agree more. Just to add my Two Cents, it makes more sense to me to include large/small S varieties (which many collectors don't even know about). These are intentional changes to the design - however minor. The three-legged Buffalo, and 22D no-D Lincoln command too high a price for me. Where does one stop if things like this are included? I wish other collectors would be more rational and avoid those marketing scams.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
860 Posts |
I don't see any difference between the overpolishing of a die by mint employees than the mis alignment of a die to make Double dies or repunched or over punched dates or mint marks. They are all mint mistakes and are usually at a premium to the normal. Why would a manufacturer of albums put the hole there if their customers didn't want it? They get no gain from it. They used to make blank albums for those who wanted to make their own. I certainly don't see any marketing scam in any of this. If you want to mention marketing scams, the last decade of mint offerings certainly fits that description! But I am Ok with that because I think the coin marketeering of the Treasury along with the rise in hard assets against the decaying US$ has saved coin collecting interest from the decrease seen in stamp collecting. JMHO
Jim
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Canada
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Gobulls04, have the coin authenticated first if you are interested in buying it. Whether or not it should be included in a set is up to the individual. Collect what you like....... at the end of the day it is, after all, your collection. 
Edited by hadleydog 07/17/2008 3:20 pm
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1691 Posts |
if it's MS 64 or above....an arm and a leg!
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 United States
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It's still a desirable coin. Have your coin dealer send it in before you make a purchase. Protect yourself. If he does not want to, walk away. Just my opinion.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First, I would say $775 is fair price IF it's authentic and truly a fine and it's of at least average eye appeal.
Second, I'm in the minority in this thread because I'd love to own one. If you really trust your dealer go for it. If you have ANY doubts ask him to have it slabbed. Offer to pay the slab fee if need be.
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