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1892 Large Cent With Aound The Clock Double And Tripling

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 Posted 09/27/2018  5:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
im just wondering if anyone else has found this variety?
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 Posted 09/27/2018  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see some minor MD, but there are a couple repunched letters. I've never looked closely at Vickies for minor MD, other than the 1859's & 81's or 2's. Good eyes or good microscope. B
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 Posted 09/27/2018  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my 1892 published catalog, this is obverse O2W-T1 and reverse R1S-A1. Very common reverse, that was eventually married to obverse dies of all three effigies. Not so common obverse, as this die only accounted for a 2% of the obverse 3 mintage.
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 Posted 09/27/2018  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find gidgit, this is the one I have
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Rob ,,,, What's the difference between the O2W Obv's, but T1, 2, 3, 4, 5? From the '92's that I sent you, you annoted what the die pair was on each of them. All of the O2W and O2Y's have the D's with underpunches, probably MD and different types of R/P'd N's in Canada. I thought that my T2's, 4's & 5 all looked like Gidgit's post, but I didn't examine that closely
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 Posted 09/28/2018  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are different dies, as determined by the RP letters, die cracks, etc.
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 Posted 09/28/2018  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
papeldog I'm not sure yours is the same have a close look at the I and A in GRATIA
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papeldog's is obverse die O2Y-T4. The die cracks are the best markers on this one. The reverse die is R1T-A3 per the die chip in the fork of the leaf 9 stem. This die is pretty common as it coined about 10% of the 1892 obverse 3 mintage.
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 Posted 10/16/2018  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so I understand that this coin is only 2% of the obverse 3 minted but I'm unsure just how scarce this is. and what effect does this have on its value? I have not seen anyone post one nor have not seen any others,,any of you have this obverse? i'd love to see it
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Yes, this obverse is scarce, with a mintage of about 10,000 +/-, but quite a few of the 1892 obverse 3 dies had multiple re-punched letters. This one is not even the scarcest. IMO this has a little premium to a collector trying to get all the 1892 die pairs, but otherwise not much to the average large cent collector.
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Is the die chip the same on this coin leaf 9.=R1T-A3 ?
But the obverse is different as per the die crack on A and missing foot of N

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fourmack,

Yours is an obverse 2 (O2S-T1) mated with R1S-A2. On the die that made yours, they left significant tool marks in the fork of Leaf #9. It isn't a die chip like the other.
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Excellent thanks for that
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Rob, have any new 1892 die pairs turned up since you published your 1890/1892 book?
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