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1860-O Seated Dollar - Real Or Fake?

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1860-O-Seated-Dollar---Real-Or-Fake?
1860-O-Seated-Dollar---Real-Or-Fake?

Is this the real deal or is this a 40 Thieves fake?
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Looks okay to me, but I'd want close-up pics before spending that kind of money on it.
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Probably OK, but the rim issues greatly diminish the value (and appeal).
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To me I would be probably pass on this.
The rims look too thick and the location of the mintmark is in the wrong location.
Compare it to this known coin.
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Wouldn't touch
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Denticle's dots or lines, out choose...note JimmyDs real one.
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You can have a high mint mark. Just did a quick check at PCGS. Just sayin'
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You can have a high mint mark. Just did a quick check at PCGS. Just sayin'


True, considering that mintmarks at this time were punched by hand
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I would suggest taking a look through this site and try and match the die marriage to confirm that this is a real Seated dollar.
http://www.seateddollarvarieties.com/1860-O.shtml
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^ they did hand punch the mint marks back then, so position can vary.

For comparison, here's my 1860-O from my 7070. It came from an Anacs details slab as it has had a cleaning in it's past.

1860-O-Seated-Dollar---Real-Or-Fake?
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This is the most common No Motto Seated dollar, with more than one MM position. This coin is legit, though clearly a details example.
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If you enjoy headaches, then buy it. It looks close enough from those pics. My suggestion would be to save up some money to purchase a graded example and avoid potential headaches. You'll sleep better at night.
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All of the coins presented look genuine (although 3 of 4 have problems.) The 1894-O is the only coin that looks like an original piece, around AU50 or so. The SLD has rim damage, and the other two Morgans have been cleaned; the '92-S also has three deep scratches across the obverse.

If that 1894-O is problem-free in hand, it's a good buy at the price given; the others are no-go (the 1860-O is a bit high, but the 1892-S and 1878-CC are ridiculous.)
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