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Hello From Anza California - 1917 Lincoln Severe De-Lamination

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 Posted 11/20/2018  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have added the other posts to this thread with the Hi Res photos.

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You can post the new pictures on here! even if you did not save them in your pics. file you can copy,save them again then post them on here,that is the policy of the site to continue the topic in its original thread and not to post a duplicate thread.
I forgot why I came here in the first place I am skeptical of being anything other than a glue type residue, what is the weight?although not always successful to remove the glue, but have you tried to soak it in the pure acetone?
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Just hit the button to "Switch to full reply" then hit "My previous uploads" , copy your pics and paste them to your thread. They are not lost
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I originally posted this in the Introduce yourself area. It was my first post. I was asked for better photos. I purchased a Chinese Digital Microscope from WISH for $15.00. I was able to get some very good photos with the Scope. Maybe now someone can identify exactly what is going on with this coin.
I do want to make one thing clear, these marks are NOT residue, They are NOT embedded hair or other foreign items. These are cracks into the surface of the coin. If you look at the edge shots you can see the cracks extend deeply into the coins surface, and appear that you could actually pry the layers apart.
Any ideas or other examples would be appreciated.

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Now that I see it in a larger image, the though struck through thread comes to mind now.
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John1, I'm not familiar with Mike. Do you have contact info ?
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Coop, If I understand struck through, that means something was between the planchet and the die, when the planchet was struck ?
This can not be the case as the cracks extend over the edge of the coin. They are deep cracks, and I could literally pry the coin into 2 pieces at several points. How can you explain the cracks on the edge of the coin ?

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I click on the link to send him an email, and it won't let me send anything to him. Do you have contact information ?

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Just sent Mike a PM.
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If the thread can make a mark on the obverse during the strike, it can also make a mark on the edge from the collar pressing into the coin during the strike.
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If this was a struck-through-thread error, then the impressions of the threads should weaken where they cross heavily worn parts of the design, like the wheat ears. They do not. Instead, I suspect that these wavy lines mark the edges of areas that are acid-etched. I do note that the surface texture changes on one side of the line, with the slightly rougher texture being the area that was chemically etched.
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Could you elaborate on the etching you mention., If like when you etch a circuit board. Can you explain how to achieve that effect and do you have any examples.
How could etching create deep cracks all over the surface, and onto the edge ?

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I think it's a delam. I mean come on, looks like it's gonna crumble apart.
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Panther, if I'm correct they wouldn't be cracks. Instead they would be low steps. As to exactly how the surface may have been etched, I couldn't say. Some droplets here and there of a corrosive, viscous substance. All I can tell you is that I've seen many examples over the years of coins whose surface have been etched in a similar, patchy manner.
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