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Error On Arrows And Feathers On An 1885 Morgan Dollar

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Hi Everybody, I have another possible error coin. I know this coin is a little beat up but I noticed something strange on the back of this Morgan dollar that you might help me verify. It seems to me that there are two errors, one in the arrow feathers and one in the lower left of the Eagle. Let me know !
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Sorry to say, but your coin is counterfeit. Has the indicative look of a Chinese fake and a cast appearance with mushy details.
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Hi Ploopy , Thank you for letting me know but I know with quite a lot of certainty that it is indeed an authentic coin. I bought it from the most reputable coin shop in Los Angeles , Wilshire Coin, a few years back .
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Those areas are just damage. It's Post Strike Damage ( PSD).
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On CCF, a Morgan dollar in considered a classic coin, so I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.

Please review the forum section descriptions, so posts are made in the correct section.
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Sorry to say, but your coin is counterfeit.


I'm not saying one way or the other but the date, mintmark, and eagle's beak sure do look "off" - and the surface on the reverse sure does look pourus. Hopefully others with more experience in counterfiets will respond
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Hi Ploopy , Thank you for letting me know but I know with quite a lot of certainty that it is indeed an authentic coin. I bought it from the most reputable coin shop in Los Angeles , Wilshire Coin, a few years back .


Not to be a debbie downer or anything, but the date is definitely wrong, mintmark is off, with the details being mushy and the surface appearance (especially on the up close reverse pic that was posted) definitely means it is counterfeit. All the Chinese fakes have this same look. Looks like the coin shop got fooled.
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I'm not saying one way or the other but the date, mintmark, and eagle's beak sure do look "off" - and the surface on the reverse sure does look pourus. Hopefully others with more experience in counterfiets will respond


I'm not a complete expert on fakes, however I've seen so many of these similar looking Morgan counterfeits on this forum that for me it's easy to identify. Not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, just trying to give some evidence to my analysis. I'll definitely eat my words if I'm wrong
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This is one of the worst counterfeit morgans I've ever seen. The date and mintmark are terrible especially, and the dentils look split from the rim, typically of these pathetic Chinese fakes. Take that right back to your "reputable coin shop" and don't let them get off until you have every penny you spent back.
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It is for 100% certain this coin is a counterfeit, and a bad one at that.

The coin has the 1921 design but is dated 1885? No way. It has the classic details of a counterfeit as well.


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I know with quite a lot of certainty that it is indeed an authentic coin.


Sorry, but I can tell you that it for sure is not authentic. Take it back to the dealer where you purchased it from.
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Guys it's 100% counterfeit, but you're missing the obvious 'Tell' It has the 1921 reverse and not the correct slanted arrow feather for 1879-1904 Morgans.
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Just to show what SilverDollar and SeatedNut are referring to, I have this in my files.
It clearly shows the difference in the top feather on the arrow.
There are also other minor differences but this is the easiest to spot.
The OPs Morgan definitely shows a 1921 Reverse.
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The chin/jaw line is a dead giveaway too. He bought it a few years back so he's pretty much stuck.
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ACoins,

We just stumbled upon this thread and wanted to say if you are at all dissatisfied with any purchase here at Wilshire Coin Exchange, just bring the coin back in with your receipt and we will buy it back with interest. There is no time limit. Whether you bought it yesterday or 10 years ago we stand behind our products and service. Feel free to come in anytime.

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