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All Methods On How To Reveal Coin Dates

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Hi, I have plenty of coins with rubbed off dates specifically Standing Liberty quarters and some Mercury dimes.
What are your methods of retrieving them ?

Most preferably, is there any way to reveal the dates without inflicting damage to the coins ( at least not much damage ). How does the PCGS do it ? I have seen a few coin listed as a 1916-D Mercury dime with a rubbed off date. Let me know !

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I have never experimented with revealing dates, but I did recently run into this response on another topic (concerning SLQs):

http://goccf.com/t/244823#2834495
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I moved this topic to the Classic Coin Section. Since the majority of ND coins would be considered classic, it might have a more knowledgeable audience here.
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Acoustic microscopy has been shown to reveal worn off dates/details by imaging the internal strain in the metal imparted by the original strike. Unlike acid etching, it is completely non-destructive.
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I am guessing with this suggestion:
Has anyone tried polarized light?
All you need is a light source and a polarizing light filter -
perhaps sunglassed may do the trick.

To prove the light filters are polarizing, test a pair of filters at 90 degrees axially to each other. The light source should be completely blocked out.
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The way I look at it is if you can't see the date, pass on it. Finding a date by any kind of method except just visual is not worth putting in my Albums.
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with just carl. I don't get dateless coins to begin with, in general.
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Has anyone tried polarized light?
All you need is a light source and a polarizing light filter -
perhaps sunglassed may do the trick.

Might work but I would suspect it would work better with certain specific light frequencies so just a general "light source" probably wouldn't work very well. I would also think different frequencies would work better on different compositions.


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I don't get dateless coins to begin with, in general.

So if you had a dateless 1916 SLQ you would just send it to the scrapper right?
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I have never experimented with revealing dates, but I did recently run into this response on another topic (concerning SLQs): http://goccf.com/t/244823#2834495


I had read that thread as well... I jumped right on board and got myself some silver testing solution. (Nitric and muriatic acid mix) by JSP. Worked on every Standing Liberty quarter I used it on. I've been meaning to add a detailed post to that thread, but haven't had time. It does work though. Stay tuned.
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So if you had a dateless 1916 SLQ you would just send it to the scrapper right?


No, I would not. By "I don't get dateless coins to begin with, in general" I don't mean I would pass up a 1916 SLQ with no date, I mean I would not purchase a dateless coin (that cannot be determined whether valuable or not without a date) and attempt to reveal the date.

Example: I found a dateless Type II Buffalo nickel for sale, I wouldn't purchase it in the attempt to reveal a possible key date.
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I really doubt polarized light would work at all, in the visible there's no penetration through metal so unless you did surface preparation like etching it would just look like a mirror no matter the polarity.

Conder is right that your frequency would need to be specially selected, I am thinking ultra high frequency like x-rays which have decent measurable penetration through coin-like thicknesses of metal and can be used to image internal structure. Much more hazardous than acoustic techniques though.
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