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1859 Victoria Large Cent For Grading

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Getting closer to completing my Large Cents date set.

Thoughts on this 1859 QV cent?

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F-15 to VF-20 and heavily cleaned by hand. There should be all kinds of Vicky gunk in the nooks and crannies and this one is clean but no scratches. I specialize in Vicky large cents and have at least 1000 1859's alone. I don't see anything readily evident on the variety front for this coin. !859's have 100's of varieties because the dies broke/wore so often, so many letters/digits were repunched by hand. What's a QV cent?
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I don't see evidence of cleaning, at least not anything recent. I wonder how that section of the rim on the obverse got so flattened, which I think probably drags it down a bit. Berries in Queen Victoria's wreath and leaves on the reverse are decent, legends crisp. I wouldn't cringe at VF20 overall, and I think that'd be an unannotated grade.

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Queen Victoria, Vicky, Vic.

It does not appear to be cleaned in hand, there are not many hairlines or scratches at all and the color is a nice chocolate brown, maybe a shade darker than the milk chocolate in the photos. The dies were somewhat worn and/or misaligned as evidenced by the obverse rim flattening out on an axis towards K5 and the weakness of the denticles in that area.

This appears to be the "narrow / low 9" variety, apparently the 2nd most common for the date. I'm still hunting for an 1858 that is both affordable and not a total embarrassment to a coin album.
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F-15.
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I meant to post these, but forgot -- took a couple of cell phone pictures to show the color more accurately.


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F15 for sure.
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