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Identification Request - To Some Extent, And Other Stuff

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Identification-Request---To-Some-Extent,-And-Other-Stuff

Identification-Request---To-Some-Extent,-And-Other-Stuff

I found this today in the garden


I already identified this coin as being a German 1 groschen /10 pfennig/, and the remaining question is: what date do you see? 184-what?

Basically, what I pictured above, is the only place on the coin where you can see anything more or less clearly. My other question is - should I leave it as it is, or should I try to make it more readable? (I surely do not want it to turn pink by applying some chemicals!)
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 Posted 07/23/2008  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1943?
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I don't think that you can hurt it by soaking it in olive oil for a few weeks, or longer, then soaping it, brushing it with an old toothbrush, and then picking (CAREFULLY) the crud off from around the date area with a toothpick. I see more of a 19- date than an 18- date on it. Left in your garden by an uninvited visitor during WW II? A fascinating find, given the possible history behind it.
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 Posted 07/23/2008  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like 1844 to me
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07/23/2008 5:31 pm
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pls, well during WWII there were no buildings here. This area supposedly was some kind of park by the lakeside. Probably accessible by the general public.

What I think is that the coin is the same as this one:
http://cgi.ebay.de/1-Neugroschen-Sa...19_W0QQitemZ290180165348QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
The date is in the same place, the digits are the same style. On the reverse you can see the horizontal line and three letters are partially visible in the right place.
There is a small spot where the black stuff has flaked off, and the coin appears light-grey, just as it should be.
I'm positive it's this type but the date bothers me. This type was struck in 1841, 42, 45, 46 etc. (so it can't be 43 or 44) the first one being the most common. Any ideas?

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That last digit looks like a 1 from here..
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Left in your garden by an uninvited visitor during WW II? A fascinating find, given the possible history behind it.


I already have an "uninvited WWII visitor coin". I found this one earlier not far away from the place where I found the black one yesterday. This one is from 1941. I think the black one is 1841 just as xshift says.

P.S. if you stare at the black coin long enough, you'll see the "1" at the top, right from the whitish spot
Identification-Request---To-Some-Extent,-And-Other-Stuff
1941 <<->> 1841


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Okay, after seeing the example coin, I'd agree - 184?, at least. I still don't see the 1. But try a good soak in distilled water or olive oil to help loosen the crud. Then you'll find out for sure.
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I'll cast my vote for 1841 the shield/date position is key for me looks similar to this one;

Identification-Request---To-Some-Extent,-And-Other-Stuff

KM#1159 Saxony
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07/27/2008 11:48 pm
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 Posted 08/08/2008  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cabomhn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks like a 5 so my guess is 1845.
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My vote goes for a 1
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 Posted 10/06/2008  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valutarick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
neugroschen Saxony 1844. Bad condition. Have better one in my collection.
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