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1909 S Indian Head Cent W/Lamination?

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 Posted 07/26/2008  09:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Bought a couple of wheat rolls yesterday. The seller also had a half dozen IHCs. He stated that since wheats were worth 3 cent each the indians should be a least 6 cents. Bought them. Didn't know this was among them till I returned home and started checking them out.

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?
What do you think, lamination or severe hit?
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 Posted 07/26/2008  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be a lamination peel, which in this case does not add any value to the coin's value because of its scarcity. For the 6 cents paid you have a $800.00 to $900.00 coin. Very well done and congratulations. I would go one step further with this coin and have it encapsulated, having the error annotated on the label.

BJ Neff
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 Posted 07/26/2008  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mr. Neff, I may have to do just that. I don't collect cents, but at that price I sure could get some nice silver dollars.
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 Posted 07/26/2008  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


WOW

Now that's the way to do it!


Great pick-up
Congrats-
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 Posted 07/26/2008  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need to find a seller like that!! I am jealous, I need a 09-S for my collection of Indians and would like to pay 6 cents for it also!
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chrsb, I advertise that I buy wheat cents at 3 time face. Sometimes when I meet the seller they bring other coins as well. Since all I collect is silver dollars, I offer 3 times face, sometimes they sell sometimes not. Have even picked up a few silver dollars along the way.
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 Posted 07/26/2008  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rbf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anything, the lamination will detract from the value of the coin, not add to it. If I were to sell the coin, I'd try not to draw much attention to the "flaw".
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I would like to, if possible see a nice closeup of the entire shield. Also, If possible can I see a picture of the diamonds in the headpiece? lastly, can I see a picture of the space between the last 9 in the date and the A of AMERICA. It could be a nice Jackpot! I just want to check a few things:-)

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 07/26/2008  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
09-S! Great find. Definitely lamination.
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Bill, I agree completely with your posting, especially the need for some additional photos. I know exactly what you are looking for. Probably nothing, but the S asks for more info I believe. But an amazing find for the price!

Jim
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Hi desertgem,

Thats why I'm hoping to see more pics. I truly want to rule this one in and not out:-) The pics I asked for will give me enough info to at least know if it is one of the more well known but nicely done counterfeits.

Thanks,
Bill

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I think this page http://www.bakercoins.net/learn/art...counter.html shows it well if anyone is curious as to why you asked for those particular areas. Education and careful comparisons can really help.

Jim
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I bought a counterfeit 1909-S IHC on ebay 6 months ago. Actually met the diagnostics accoring to Rick Snow's book. Only under 10X can you see the sandblast texture suggesting spark erosion.
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Hi Bill, here are your pictures. I like everything except the shield.

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?
Space between 9 and A.

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First 2 diamonds.

1909-S-Indian-Head-Cent-W/Lamination?
Diamond2, whats left of 3 and 4.

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Top of shield.

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Left side of lower half.

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Right side of lower halr. Couldn't get the full shield in picture.
Bill, the picture on Bakers site shows the grooves ending early on the right side of the shield. I have about 50 of these indians and 90% show show the same lack of grooves in that area. Could he be wrong about that not being a wear area?
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Howdy,

Thanks for the extra work in adding those pics.

I think I'm OK with this one:-)

The last thing I would do is compare the S on this one to another known example. This S seems to ride a little high on the surface although the S itself looks right.

I am about 90% sure this is a good one:-)

Nice Coin even with the lamination like mark.

Bill
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 Posted 07/27/2008  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The shield details look good. Mine fake one was mushy and not well defined. Congrats on your find.
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