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Requesting Advise On 1872 United States Trade Dollar

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Poor counterfeit of an extremely rare pattern coin.
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Whats the correct weight
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Agree, counterfeit. Lots of these around.



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Correct weight is right on the coin, 420 grains. Even if the weight is correct though, this one is clearly a fake.
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Poor counterfeit of an extremely rare pattern coin.


Would that be J-1220?

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Of note: Trade dollars were not produced for circulation/export until 1873. That's why this date could only possibly occur (barring fakes) on a pattern coin. Pattern coins are always quite rare by nature and anything appearing to be one must come under the highest scrutiny.


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Correct weight is right on the coin, 420 grains. Even if the weight is correct though, this one is clearly a fake.


Since none of my scales do grains, that is approximately 27.2 grams.

In the end, it is quite a poor fake. You'll be lucky if it is actually silver, sorry.
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And what if it is silver?
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It doesn't matter if it's silver and has the right weight - the mushy details tell the story.
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Thanks
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I don't think the made the Trade dollar until 1873.
could be wrong
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I don't think the made the Trade dollar until 1873.


This is a fake pattern. It has the look of pewter. Although pewter has a lower density, perhaps it is mixed with lead and/or thicker to fake the correct weight.
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Thanks Jimbucks. I Found it
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And what if it is silver?

Then it is worth melt value.
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It's not silver.
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