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This coin is very strange. At first I thought it was just severely worn. The weight felt off and I thought that was just because of the wear, but the rim is completely intact, then I noticed the size its smaller than a regular penny. Its Bout the size of a dime. The color seems off almost looks gold, what is going on with this?
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It kinda looks like a Dryer Coin.
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Interesting, but I dont think that's what it is. The diameter difference is too symmetrical, and the rim is not raised or curled. It feels smooth, the rim seems perfectly normal. Also its definitely a wheat, so the weight is way off, even for that amount of wear
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Interesting, but I don't think that's what it is.



Perhaps not, but with the slightly pronounced rim, extra-worn faces, and small diameter, that would be my working theory until I could prove that it was something else.
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With those Dryer Coins from what I read it would either roll the rim up or wear the coin down. I provided some more pictures of the rim. It is completely intact and does not seem raised more than any other Wheat cent. Also, in the close up of the in god we trust area, you can see some of the lettering spilling over onto the rim which is still visible. So to me that would rule out a Dryer Coin to me. Could this be a cent stamped on a foreign planchet?
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Also, in the close up of the in god we trust area, you can see some of the lettering spilling over onto the rim which is still visible. So to me that would rule out a Dryer Coin to me.

I'm thinking someone altered the cent's diameter and weight (after strike) enough to work in an older dime vending machine or pay phone. The lettering does not spill into the rim, but rather the edge / rim was pushed into the devices / lettering.

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Could this be a cent stamped on a foreign planchet?

Some things are possible, while some are not. We have to take in account or realize a cent sized working die will not fit in a dime sized collar. Thanks, Doug.
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Looks like a Dryer Coin that was found in the parking lot. sorry but you have nothing there. imo
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If it was a Dryer Coin, I dont it could lose .4 grams in weight and still maintain a perfect rim. Also it's not the exact size of a dime, I was just using that as reference
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OK can you get a clear photo of that black spot.
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I'm no expert, but sure looks like it's been in a dryer to me. Either before or after the PMD occurred. Looks like the dryer was after it was sandblasted.
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If a smaller diameter planchet was fed into a cent press, there would be no rim at all. As it is, yours shows the rim running into the motto, indicating that the coin started out normal and some sort of PMD caused this. I agree that it is most likely a Dryer Coin. It may not have spent all its time rolling on edge, but tumbling, as well. This explains why the rim was not able to be pushed up farther and the wear to the faces. The weight is not outrageous, in my opinion, because of this sort of wear.
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