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1898-O Barber Half Dollar Branch Mint Proof

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Does such a thing really exist? One is being offered from a dealer, but with just one picture of the reverse and little info on it. Makes me wonder. I can not seem to find any info online about such a coin. The seller says it is from "March, 1991 Bowers and Merena sale, lot 440" and a PF-62.

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More info would help, but I'm gonna go with "it doesn't exist" for now. Can you post the pic(s) or link to the sale?
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Can you post a link to the sale?
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Here is a PCGS list from that auction but this coin/lot# is not found on it.
https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices/...322281949947
This is from Bowers' 2015 Guide Book of Barber Silver Coins, notes under 1898-O:

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Some high-grade examples have proof-like surfaces, called "branch mint Proofs" by some.

There is some information (via Breen) on these "branch mint proofs" in the description of this NGC SP66:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-hal...bnail-071515
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Neither PCGS or NGC have a single 1898-O proof or SP graded so that's all you really need to know.


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There is some information (via Breen) on these "branch mint proofs" in the description of this NGC SP66:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-hal...bnail-071515


Gotta take things from Breen with a grain of salt. NGC seems to have bought into it a little more than PCGS just from population reports, but I believe there is some disagreements surrounding some.
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"branch mint proof" seems to be a euphemism for "proof-like", and I have no idea if there is any technical, accepted definition of what that means, other than "it looks like a proof". NGC has 4 1898-O graded PL; PCGS apparently disagrees. This one "looks like a proof" to me. https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-hal...bnail-071515 Who knows what was going on in New Orleans with these. PCGS does PL for 1898 Morgans so I wonder what their criteria is that the half dollars fail at.
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PCGS does PL for 1898 Morgans so I wonder what their criteria is that the half dollars fail at.


As of now PCGS doesn't do PL for most US coins. Morgans are the exception, some gold coins that were part of big finds were eligible but the majority of US coins they just won't.

That is something they are reconsidering with the new regime.
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