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1966 Kennedy Half FS - 103 ? Vs PCGS

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Picked this up in a PCGS holder not labeled as a FS-103. What do you think? Sure looks like one to me. I'm thinking of sending it to PCGS to re-holder it with the variety attribution.
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Die gouges.
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 Posted 01/16/2019  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it
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Awesome Cherrypick carwash!
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Really fine pick up! I like it! The only half that I have is the 1964 D DDO-010.
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Definitely a Doubled Die, not sure which one. Nice catch.
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Nice find. I'd still keep it even though it maybe be one of the Working Hub Doubled dies. Wexler reveals This information on his site:


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Significant changes have been made to the 1966 Kennedy half dollar obverse doubled die listings due to the discovery of three different obverse doubled working hubs.
http://doubleddie.com/1141429.html
The reassignment of numerous 1966 Kennedy half dollar obverse doubled die listings as being from the obverse doubled working hubs left huge "holes" in the obverse doubled die listings for this date. As an example, there were once 37 listings for the 1966 obverse doubled dies. Now there are just 12 working dies and the three working hubs. Many listings were assigned new numbers in order to fill the gaping holes in the listings. Notations of these changes are made for each of the affected varieties.

What does that mean? While they are showing hub doubling, the problem is that the hub was doubled, so technically they are not doubled dies, as the doubling was on the hub. There are a few examples of doubled dies that were created on a die that had hub doubling. But I would save these for now. I'm not buying any as the value may just bottom out, or something else may happen? Who knows. But Evidently the something must be up as several of the listings on Variety Vista doesn't have images anymore. So time will tell on these for their value. They may just be listed by their WWHDO-001-3 numbers in the future. But Wexler has removed many from his attribution lists and have replaced them. CPG has not noticed this yet.
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I think your half dollar does match the CONECA listed 66 SMS DDO-013, FS-50-1966-103 (13.8). Note the marker, two light die gouges nest to the rim south-west of IN. http://varietyvista.com/Variety%20M....htm#_1966_5
Photo of the DDO-013 in my collection.
Larry Nienaber


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Thanks for all your responses and info on the working hubs coop. There is a lot to look at on this coin to try and determine which DDO it is or is not.
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I think there are two main sources to use when trying to determine which Kennedy 1966 DDO you have, Wexler's site and James Wiles with the CONECA Master Listings. I always use the CONECA Master Listings. On that site your half matches the 66 BS DDO-013, FS-103.
Larry Nienaber
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