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Could This Be A "Phantom P" In My 91 P Roosevelt Dime ?

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I know there were several Phantom P's in Roosevelt dimes in the 80's. But never found one that could be in 91. Does this appear to be a P on upper right side of the mint mark, by the rim? Tried to get the best pictures I could.
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The mint mark is part of the design. It is bit a hubbing issue. RPMs stopped with 1989 coins.
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It might just be damage from coin contact marks.
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I know the actual mint Mark is suppose to be there. I just thought off to the upper right it looked like another P. Thanks
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Likely damage if incuse or a die gouge if raised. Phantom mintmarks were never confirmed to be true varieties (actual RPMs) and are not listed anywhere besides Ken Potter's books. I believe they can be explained by something other than an unlikely, widely-misplaced mintmark punch.
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If it is a widely displaced mint mark punch,
would that qualify the coin as a new variety, not before known?
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If it is a widely displaced mint mark punch,
would that qualify the coin as a new variety, not before known?


Technically it would still be a RPM. But the Roosevelt dime "phantom mintmarks" were never proven to be RPMs. They are not listed by CONECA and Wexler's Roosevelt dime RPM files are virtually nonexistent right now.
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He is not saying that they is no more RPMs for dimes, it is just that through the loss of some of his attributers, they were lost in transit. So he is hoping to find them or start all over again.
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Photos way to bright to see anything
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So should I not be referencing back to Ken Potters books ? If there are more informed books that would be good for errors, what would you suggest ?
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To me the Phantom that your are seeing is a stain. It is not raised above the surface like a mint mark should be. Impossible to to be an extra mint mark. Just a stain.
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