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Man With Skirt Next To Scimitar ? Identification Help Please. (Id: Kidara Kidarite Debased Stater)

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Thanks for your time, any info gratefully received.

5.85 grams and approx 24mm


Man-With-Skirt-Next-To-Scimitar-?-Identification-Help-Please.-Id:-Kidara-Kidarite-Debased-Stater
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The "Scimitar" is actually in an oval-shaped counterstamp, with either Arabic or Sassanian script inside; I can't tell if it's an actual counterstamp, or just part of the design that's been made to look like a counterstamp.

The "man with skirt" is definitely Kushan-inspired, and I think I cna make out a horse-and-rider - or perhaps an elephant-and-rider - on the other side. So I'm going to go for "Kushan imitative" - perhaps from this series from Gandhara.

I'm sure the expert in coinage of this region and period will be along to comment.
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I'm not certain whether yours is an ancient imitation or a modern concoction but this is what it's trying to be:
Man-With-Skirt-Next-To-Scimitar-?-Identification-Help-Please.-Id:-Kidara-Kidarite-Debased-Stater
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=159024
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Thank you for your thoughts Sap.

Thank you for the identification Kushanshah. Given that it came with an Azes ii Drachm I would hope for the ancient imitation option.
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Here is a very similar piece. In fact, I believe it shares the same obverse (king side) die with yours.
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=68350
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Many thanks Kushanshah I can see many similarities with the reverse as well.
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