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1800-S Gold Sweden 20 Kroner-Overdate Ck

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Please let me know if this is an RPD or overdate.

Also, I could not find any recorded numerical variety description for this.

If applicable, I'd like to also have something to the effect validating that this is a new abnormality yet to be uncovered etc.

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This shot should make it a bit clearer:


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Not sure on this one. It is a bit out of my league. But it appears that the rim was setup twice and the last digit looks out of alignment. Not sure how they set up these dies. If they are a gang die, this doesn't look like the case. But if they were creating the while die from various means, they may have something that is not setup correct on it. Doubled date/over date? Not sure. But the denticals on the rim doesn't look right either.
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Above link is the grading request link for this same 20 Kroner coin. Toward the last 1/3 of the thread the authenticity question became more of a subject matter.

I then posted close-ups of the king's hair strands near the area of his upper ear. A side-by-side comparison between this region and the same one on Heritage shows the differences between the two coins with respect to this particular area.

It is for this reason that I feel it is appropriate to include this hair strand discussion within the world variety section for the same coin. Please place your comments about the possible existence of multiple hair strand varieties etc. within the thread that we are currently in and not inside of the grading thread.
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If I sent this particular 20 Kroner 'gold' coin to PCGS for a grade & variety check for both the date and hair type, the responses to the following questions would be nice to have before dropping it into the mailbox to PCGS:

1) Would PCGS charge me for two variety attribution fees for the hair and date attribution ck. assuming that the coin is genuine and unaltered or just 'one' attribution fee to cover the investigation of both potential varieties?

2) Could they still charge me for the grading and both attribution fees and send me back the coin un-slabbed based upon the fact that it has been altered?

3) On a slightly different but potentially related subject matter could I expect PCGS and/or NGC to return the coin un-slabbed (even after I paid for the grading and attribution fees) with a 'written' determination of the variety type(s)(if requested in advance) should they opine that original Swedish-minted coin had been intentionally altered...?

I am trying to decide if this coin would be worth sending in as one of the eight coins that I do yearly with PCGS based upon the fact that it would be worth at least $ 125 over spot to justify my time/financial expenditures etc.

My personal cut-off point is that a coin has to be worth at least $ 125 over what I paid for it to cover round trip postage, insurance, TPG fees and the presence of at least a 10 - 15% profit margin to make it worth it.
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Not sure if it's legitimate or not, since I don't have any knowledge about that, but that's a nice Overdate though!
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