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1952 Horned Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 02/02/2019  10:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Apledger to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all. Can anyone tell me what the cent could possibly be worth.

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I'm not convinced that those are both die cracks. I'm not even sure that either one is. Normally roughly parallel but not straight linear marks are either PMD or a lamination. This looks more like a lam to me. @apledger, could you please post a nice close-up of this area? Thx!
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First,

Two things catch my attention. I enhanced a part of Apledger's original photo and marked the areas of interest (below).

There appears to be a small die chip toward the back of Lincoln's head. This is in the same general location as several interior die breaks listed in cuds-on-coins.com. This seems quite small for an IDB, but the lines heading east from the chip suggest that it at least could be the start of an IDB.

The two lines forming the "horns" seem to stop abruptly at the rim. I would think that if they were PMD, the lines would affect the rim. There clearly is added metal between the horizontal of the "T" in TRUST and the rim. IMHO, all of this looks more like a lamination than either a die break or PMD.

Interesting find.

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This looks more like a lam to me.


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Not a Lamination, since there's no peeling flaky metal. These are Die Cracks, as it's raised above the surfaces. You have RCD-1c-1952-01 on Cuds-on-coins.com. http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...09-1958-rcd/

It's a Retained Cud.
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Retained Cud, not a lamination.
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Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Not a lamination. Could be a Retained Cud, but the image needs to be larger to see if the area in question is in the right location or an altered location?
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Quite ODD, the area appears to be raised.
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Well the die cracks are spreading, but I don't see this as a Die Cud yet. More of a die crack and die break side by side. (If that area is all raised on the right area) If the area above the 'T' had rose above the rim, then it would be a Cud. But not yet either.
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Interesting that we are having trouble coming to a consensus on this one!
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You have RCD-1c-1952-01 on Cuds-on-coins.com.


Wow. I can't argue with the listed Retained Cud. It's a clear match for this critter. I'm persuaded, and given the listing, I have to change my view to a RCD.

When I saw the original photo, I sure thought the two areas above Lincoln's head were below the field, and saw the raised material on Lincoln's head as where the missing material was deposited. In light of clear photo of the RCD plate coin, though, my impression of the area above Lincoln's head was exactly backward.

The area between the horizontal of the "T" and the rim is clearly raised. If what crosses the head is a die crack, a RCD would make sense.

What an interesting coin!
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Apledger;

Check this out, appears to be a match, or withing a few strikes.

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As for value, I usually sell a couple of these Retained Cuds each year on ebay auctions and they go for $7-12 plus shipping. The posted coin is quite nice and should be a solid $10-12 coin.
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