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The obverse die is really rotated a bit. (The die moves during clashes) So minor rotation is not a collectable item. Just the major ones of 45 degrees and over are worth a premium.
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I would think all clashes this strong are collectible Coop am I wrong?
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It is up to the individual. Would I save it. Perhaps for educational purposes. I don't think they list these, but this is the most rotated example I've seen. The mad clash issue is a totally different thought than a die clash. I'll probably add these images to my educational files. 
Edited by coop 02/03/2019 2:21 pm
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Curious if the strike itself was rotated a bit? The clash symptoms seems a bit unique. It spans further and deeper than a typical die clash.  Thanks, Doug.
Edited by Halo1st 02/03/2019 1:33 pm
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@Halo1st, It is possible I think it's more of an issue with a extreme die clash that caused the obverse die to rotate or prehaps it was rotated prior to striking but I doubt that. Maybe someone else can shine some light on this. Do you think mikediamond would be a good contact in this case?
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Since this a first for me, something tells me Mike Diamond has most likely seen a few more than I. Thanks, Doug.
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Major obverse clash. I bet you can find a match on the clash site. Nice find. John1 
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Quote: Major obverse clash. I bet you can find a match on the clash site. Nice find. Thanks John, I checked and this isn't listed but it is the strongest one I've seen.
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I agree that this is a nice find!
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That's definitely a keeper!  It is more rotated than you would normally see which might increase its desirability to collectors of this type of error.. I found a similar example to a lesser degree without the rotation that sold on the bay for a decent premium over face value, see link below. https://www.ebay.com/itm/283244433317Excellent find nonetheless! 
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Now being that it's a 1983, if it were to weigh 3.11 g you would have a coin that PCGS would love to slab for you! 
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Quote: The mad clash issue is a totally different thought than a die clash. How so Coop? It's my understanding that they are one in the same except for the fact that a MAD clash is the result of a slight horizontal or vertical deviance to the hammer die during the empty chamber strike. 
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It's a strong rotated die clash. Rotations of 30 degrees or less are not uncommon among Lincoln cents. This would seem to fall at the upper end of that range. Most of the time you'll find the coin to have been struck with the dies in the same rotated position as well. Not always, though. Once a rotated clash is equal to or greater than 45 degrees, then you've got yourself a rarity.
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