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Please Help ID This Coin ! I Was Told It Is Roman But Idk!

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Please help id this coin and its value! Thank you!
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 Posted 02/08/2019  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is a Roman provincial tetradrachm minted at Alexandria for use in Egypt. The legend is a bit difficult to read but I believe the ruler is Maximianus, AD 286-305. The legends are in Greek, being the language of the eastern portion of the empire, including Egypt. Around the emperor's bust should read something like A K M A OVA MAΞIMIANOC CEB "Emperor Caesar Marcus Aurelius Valerius Maximianus Augustus". The winged figure holding a wreath on the reverse is Nike (Victory) with L-E, meaning "year 5" (AD 290/1). Worth $20 or so.
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It was issued by Rome as stated above, but it is a hellenic denomination (the tetradrachm) issued in Egypt. The Greek used in this area of the empire is thanks to Alexander, who annexed Egypt to his Macedonian Empire - it was then ruled by Macedonians (the Ptolemys) until the creeping Roman influence finally annexed it to the Empire - in fact, the last of the Ptolemys was Caesarion, the son of Julius Caesar by Cleopatra. The Greek speaking portions of the empire were set on maintaining their customs and language and so, even after 3 full centuries of Roman rule, this province was still greek speaking. The ancient Egyptian language and religion had survived up to this time as well and would only be finally killed off by Christianity a century later.

I can't make out the legends on this, but I think Kushan is probably right - the style is consistent with Maximian's time. I'm wondering if anyone knows where the O in OVA goes? Perhaps in Aureliano? This is how I read those legends, I'd appreciate some input from anyone who knows more about the greek: AutoKrator (Emperor) Marcus Aurelius O? VAlerius MAXIMIANOS SEBastos (Caesar).
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 Posted 02/08/2019  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The O is part of the Greek spelling of Valerius, which was pronounced in Latin with an initial "w" sound (wah-LAY-ree-oos), rendered in the Greek as "ou": OYA[ΛAPIOC].

While the A is indeed for AYTOKPATOP "Emperor", the K likely stands for KAICAP "Caesar"

It's been 42 years since my last day of Latin in high school and 39 years since the last day of Greek at university, but I believe I have it correctly.
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Thanks for the lesson - I think you are right on all accounts! I was under the impression that Sebastos was in place of Caesar, but it seems the greek title is in addition to the roman one and not simply a transcription. I looked up some bigger roman provincial coins and they give Autokrater, Augustus, Sebastos and Caesar separately (a nice coin of Commodus gives them all recognisably and demonstrates the ordering you suggest: - AV KAI L(UKIOS) AV(RELIOS) KOMMODOS AVG CEB...).

Sorry for hijacking your thread, Cobb.
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Thank you all!
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