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hey, so I have this shipwreck coin. I cant tell which shipwreck its off of or what it even is. would love some info. thank you
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It would helpful to have measurements.
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Possibly something like this: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53652.html

The way your second photo is oriented, possibly 2 9 in a date is visible below the M.

Hopefully someone more familiar with these coins will come on and give you a more definitive opinion.
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It is a Felipe V, 1729 Mexico coin. Assayer R (Nicolás de Roxes) as tdziemia suggested :). The value depends of the weight since it's not visible. It looks tiny, probably one real. It does not have any signal to came from a shipwreck.
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heres a few more pics. unfortunately I cant rotate them.

What makes them not off a shipwreck if (please educate me)?
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What makes you think it is a shipwreck coin?
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I was told its possible that it came off rooswijk. when I compared it (granted I'm not a professional) it seemed accurate. thats why I'm here and trying to figure out whats actually going on. If its not off a shipwreck, why and how do you know? and what kind of reale is it?
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plus it was turned into a pendant (14k gold). usually people only do that to coins of value (monetary or sentimental)
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plus it was turned into a pendant (14k gold). usually people only do that to coins of value (monetary or sentimental)


Not necessarily. Replicas are also turned into jewellery.

Bottom line, without a respected certificate of authenticity, you can not establish that any coin was recovered from any particular shipwreck.

You can buy these items if you want but just understand you will have a difficult time convincing someone else of its value when you try to sell it.
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Salt water damage might suggest that it was recovered from a wreck, but I see nothing obvious to suggest salt water soaking.

There were lots of wrecks, and typically coins from particular wrecks cannot be identified to the wreck based on the coin itself. There are a few exceptions: the Admiral Gardner had only coins of a particular type and year.
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To spend ~$200 to turn a replica coin into a pendant sounds asinine (granted I guess people do it). Whats considered salt water damage on a coin as ive had a few atochas in my possession with the respective certificates and I cant really remember if there was a visual difference. Regardless I'm going to send it to to get it authenticated. Any suggestions?
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Whats considered salt water damage on a coin as ive had a few atochas in my possession with the respective certificates and I cant really remember if there was a visual difference


This is saltwater damage,

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5123595
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4711208

your coin does not really seem to spent 250 years under the sea. It has normal wear


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Regardless I'm going to send it to to get it authenticated. Any suggestions?


Be careful, you might pay more money for authentication than the value of the coin itself. And if you want to authenticate his shipwreck origin... that is not possible unless they have photos of all the coins recovered :(

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Almost certainly NOT a wreck coin. Same era as coins off the Rooswijk wreck... zero evidence of seawear. Non-wreck examples of these late-dated Mex cobs are actually somewhat plentiful - including fairly strongly-dated examples b/c how they were struck in those years.


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You can buy these items if you want but just understand you will have a difficult time convincing someone else of its value when you try to sell it.


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awesome thanks for the info, just one more thing. any idea what reale it is? 1, 4, 8?
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