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My First Iberic Coin From Castulo

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Picked this one up last week....A big chunk and seems to be quite rare?
Looks like this is the only coin that used a Latin legend rather than the Iberic script? Any info will be gratefully received/Translation?
Castulo, Spain AE As. 30 mm, 22g. 76-45 BC.
ISCER SACAL, youthful male head right.
CAST SOCED, sphinx right.
Burgos (2008) 709; Ripolles 905; Villaronga 14.
Castulo was an Iberian town located in the Andalusian province of Jaen.
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Very nice! Not a type I know well, but I have tried unsuccessfully in the past to get one. They come in a variety of styles, and I believe some have Iberic script beneath the sphinx. Some auction catalogs list these as provincial coins of Augustus.

Out of curiosity, are these popular where you live? I've noticed that Spanish auction houses (e.g. Tauler y Fau) have entire sections dedicated to Celtiberian coins.
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Thanks Steve!....
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are these popular where you live?


Very much so...They are reasonably easy to acquire but aren't cheap!
I just missed out on 2 coins I bid on at the recent T&F auction...But also there are a lot of smaller local auction houses that always have a few of thes types thrown in..
Its an area I'm really interested in and will certainly purchase a few more this year...I picked this one up for a snip as looking at sold lots they go from anywhere between 150-400+ Euros..Depending on detail...Below is a link showing this series of coins...
http://moneda-hispanica.com/iberia.htm
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Very nice coin , I don't think it is a Latin legend , but written in Celtiberia language in Latin script .
Many native population in Hispania Ulterior (Castulo is near to the border of Hispania Citerior and Ulterior used Latin script from the beginning , but in a restricted way and for official aims ( place names,ethnics...).
Maybe on the obverse there is a name of a magistrate , on the reverse the name of Castulo (cast) . I don't know of the language ,spoken in the region of Castulo is known , but I have te impression there are a lot of problems to understand this legends . albert
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Nice one Paul, one of these coins have been on my want list for sometime now. Are they fairly easy to come by in Spain?
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Nice coin with a good patina.

It is listed in ACIP as: AE As. 27/30mm. 19.67g. R3 with the same obv./ rev. description you have shown.

I have a little more info, written in Spanish, on the legend . I'll try to find it and post it for you.

This is my example of the type.

Nice to see an interest in Iberian coins. Hope you get some more and post them.


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Thanks guys I'm glad you also like the coin....


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written in Celtiberia language in Latin script

Reading up a bit I'm pretty sure your correct Albert thanks..It will be interesting to see what Doucet comes up with?


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Are they fairly easy to come by in Spain?

Yes they are Ron although they always seem to hold a decent price...I have a feeling alot of these coins arise from metal detecting finds in the southern provinces...


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Some auction catalogs list these as provincial coins of Augustus.

I've read this too but also some scholars reference the obverse as an agricultural god?

@ Doucet...A beautiful looking coin! With full legends which is much more difficult to find...Interesting how our coins really differ on the obverse portrait ..Mine being much more abstract whereas yours could be Augustus?


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I have a little more info, written in Spanish, on the legend . I'll try to find it and post it for you.
I'm fluent in Spanish so I hope you can post it I'll be really interested to see what is said Thanks..Paul
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Any luck getting the more common bull semis? I used to get those all the time when I bought from Spanish detectorists, but usually in awful condition. They are pretty cheap as far as Iberian coins go!
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Palouche

I found the article, but is a pdf and I don't know how to upload a pdf on the forum here.

Any ideas?

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Here's a screen shot of the article.

Palouche it would be great if you could translate it and let us know basically what it says.

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Very nice bronze with an excellent patina and beautiful olive green coloration
I had not seen one before with Latin script
The style too shows a melding of the Iberian and the Roman "Republican" issues
A world in transition
I will need to keep watch for one as nice as both these examples !
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Sorry been away for a week......

Thanks FR glad you like the coin...The more common Castulo coins with the Bull/Crescent reverse can be had in nice condition for 30-100 dolllars whereas this slightly rarer type is usually a lot more expensive.....

Thanks Doucet!.....Ok basically what the article is saying is that SALCAR, SOCED and ISCER were magistrates names....SALCAR being seen on 14 types of coin, ISCER, the most common magistrates name, being seen on 30 types interestingly sometimes with the initial M or Q, and SOCED only seen on this one type trinomina coin....The Latinization of the script shows the slow intergration of the Iberic tribes into the Roman empire and it references that the earlier coins possibly show a depiction of the Goddess Astarte, the Bull and Sphinx being her symbols......

I'll be interested to hear other peoples opinions....Paul
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