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 Posted 08/12/2008  10:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I recently received a package of coins that was sent to me obviously with postage paid before hand by the sender. When I went to pick up this package it had a label on it that said amount due: $24.50 I was informed by the postal clerk that this was a customs charge consisting of taxes. The package was sent from the US to me in Canada.

I am new to shipping packages and trying to find out if this is the normal thing that happens? I am concerned about future packages as it is one thing to pay for a few coins I like plus shipping but it's altogether a different story if there will also be a charge of $25.00 more once it gets here.

Any help and advice on shipping would be GREATLY appreciated.

thanks
Malissa
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United States
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 Posted 08/12/2008  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ptb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would start with http://www.usps.com/ and then check with your Canadian post office to ask for clarification. Also check with the seller if possible to see if they can explain. But I would first check with both Government Post Services so that you will be knowledgable when communicating with seller.

Review the terms of sellers agreement. Did they charge insurance etc.

It is a start!
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 Posted 08/13/2008  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what did they put down as the contents? did they list the value as being very high? perhaps that had something to do with customs charging the tax on your package?
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 Posted 08/13/2008  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately this happens a lot with packages sent to Canada, you have a tax on imports into your country that is equal to a percentage of the value in dollar terms.

You need to ask people sending you stuff to play down the value, or write it as a gift. Some will, dealers usually wont.
It is a fee imposed by your government and nothing to do with the sender of the package. Sorry for the bad news.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that sucks. the value on the package was listed as 150.00 and described as exomunia or something like that.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's your country charging you an import tax. It has nothing to do with the seller whatsoever.

If the seller lies on the customs form they are in violation of US Federal law. We've had buyers complain to us about it. The response to these complaints is very simple... "We are not risking losing our business and going to jail to help you cheat on your taxes."
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 Posted 08/13/2008  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the first package I ever got so I guess I just wish I had known. Now I guess I know better. But here's another question, if I am shipping to the states is the same thing going to happen to the people I ship to?
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 Posted 08/13/2008  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Malissa, far as I know it only happens in Canada.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, well that is good at least. I wouldn't have wanted to not know for sure and then someone ends up with a fee when I send stuff. Thanks for all the info guys, it helps me know what the heck I'm doing. lol
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 Posted 08/13/2008  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to say that this happens in most countries outside the U.S. As it was said for those who purchase anything from America and live outside, you should expect customs charges. If you purchase from ebay, it is worth looking to see if your country's ebay has similar items and whether the cost of buying the item in your country is less than the cost of buying in the U.S. by internet PLUS the customs charges...
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 Posted 08/13/2008  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nations will try to make money wherever and whenever they can find the opportunity to do so I'm afraid !!.......
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 Posted 08/13/2008  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
eaglefoot said:

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Nations will try to make money wherever and whenever they can


I think that should be - Nations will TAKE your money - they can print as much of it as they want!
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 Posted 08/13/2008  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Customs fee is basically the sales/VA tax you pay for "free" health care. IIRC, while it varies by location, for Canadian buyers it's around 17% of anything over $20. This pretty closely matches your numbers. I've never heard of US buyers having to pay customs on typical incoming shipments.

Nothing personal, but because of this, Canadian buyers are the worst about asking sellers to declare a false low value on customs. Not only is this illegal, as Bobby pointed out, but if an item is lost, insurance won't cover more than the LOWER of declared value or insured value.

One BIG warning to Canadian buyers is NEVER use UPS. If you check the rates, it sometimes looks like it's cheaper to ship UPS than USPS. What they DON'T tell you is that UPS charges $25-35 for anything they take thru customs, PLUS the customs charge. IIRC, USPS charges a maximum of $5, and usually nothing.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow! no ups for me then. I didnt know that either. I didnt mind really that there was a value declared, it was just that I wasn't prepared for it. Also the value declared was actually higher than the actual value of the coins so that made the customs charge higher. I have sent emails to the people about to send me things not actually asking them not declare value, just to not declare a value that is higher than the actual worth and maybe the customs tax won't be quite so high. I would think that it wouldn't be too smart to ask for there to be no value declared at all because then you wouldnt have any insurance value.

anyway, I learned a lot from this post and the sender had actually offered to send me the cost of the customs charge but that wouldn't be fair as it was probably my responsibility to know the rules before I ordered things to be shipped to me.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is all news to me. I never knew that shipping to Canada had any issues.
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 Posted 08/13/2008  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also the value declared was actually higher than the actual value of the coins so that made the customs charge higher.

If a seller is stating the customs value in excess of actual replacement value, I would be livid especially if it is overstated by a significant margin. That does nothing for them and it costs you extra money so it makes no sense why someone would do that other than out of sheer ignorance(or spite). If the seller is willing, you should request a refund for the excess customs tax that was imposed upon you by value overstatement.
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