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1821 Coronet Head Large Cent #4

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Picked this up for $299. This one has the lowest mintage of all Coronet/Matron Head Large Cents. Looks like it has some surface pitting but I still really like the look of the coin. I have owned several low grade examples of this coin, but nothing with this level of detail.

Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks!

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VF30/35 details. cleaned, corroded. very difficult to find these in good condition as the planchets were just so bad
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AU-55 details, environmental damage/cleaned. Once it tone back down to brown it will be a decent looking coin.
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EF details, ED, cleaned. Not a fan.
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XF details, ED, cleaned.
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I am afraid I must agree with other opinions. The coin has uneven/corroded surfaces and it seems to have been cleaned from the pictures. Condition is EF, corroded, cleaned.

Yes, '21's (and '23's as well) are difficult to find with decent surfaces.
As an example, these are the ones in my collections. Condition is only 'so-so', and the better one has lightly rough surfaces as well, and a planchet defect or pit on the obverse. Paid less than you did, though.

Up to F12 or so '21's are relatively easy to find, in my opinion.
In better grades. however, they become very difficult.

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Thanks for sharing yours Germanicvs. Below are mine. The third corroded one I sold a while ago.

I have a feeling that this coin is going to look different that the seller's pictures. Not sure if the in-hand look will be better or worse.

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This came in. The color looks nicer than seller's photos. The surfaces have a little corrosion when viewed under a 7x loupe, but it looks as nice as it can given its surface condition.

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after seeing the new photos. I submissively change my grade to XF details.
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I would go AU50. Not sure on details grade with the new photos.
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Wow, nice investment indeed.
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Handsome return, indeed!

1821 is an interesting date: based on the low mintage, many collectors consider this date to be scarce.
This is true, but ONLY for attractive coins with good surfaces, and in grades grades above Very Fine. Below VF, they show up suprisingly often.

These are the two best in my collection:

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