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Red Spots (Not Copper) On Gold

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 Posted 03/22/2019  6:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pdc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering if anyone here would not buy a coin because of these red spots. This is the second attemp. The first coin just had one spot,sent it back to swap for a new and this one has 2. Lower spot and upper bewteen L and I in liberty. And I'm about to give up and just reteun it and walk away. Thoughts on it, especially since you pay such a high premium.
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 Posted 03/22/2019  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would return it. That coin is not one I would want in my collection. Whether the mint says they do or not, they may be reselling recycled returns. Perhaps buy one on the secondary market instead if you want it.
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Your question made me curious so I did some looking. I found this interesting article:


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Gold coins (and even pure gold bars) can sometimes develop brown (rust colored spots) on them. Yes, a gold plated item (when the gold plating wears off) would expose the non-gold metal underneath and that exposed metal could tarnish or rust. However, a brown or reddish spot on gold doesn't mean the item is not real solid gold. Here's why:

Rust spots or brown spots can occur on genuine gold coins when a very faint trace of other metal adheres to the surface of the coin or bar. As the other metal is exposed to oxygen or other materials in the surrounding air (can even be the air that is in the holder) it causes that trace metal to change color.

Often the a faint amount of trace metal or other material will get on the dies prior to the striking of the coin or bar. When the coin is struck the molecules of the other metal (or impurities) are then fixed into the coin. They may be so thin or dispersed that they are not obvious to the naked eye.
Other times such impurities may come in contact with the coin blank before striking it into a coin.. This surface discoloration can occur on gold coins and gold bars.

Most gold coins are between 90 to 92% pure gold depending on the country of issuance. Copper or silver are added to the gold during the melting process to give the finished solid gold coin a hardness. Although during melting the metal molecules are usually mixed well, sometimes traces of copper or silver will be collect near the surface, thereby allowing the change in color in that particular spot.
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Some of the red spots on high purity (999) modern gold coins have been found to be silver sulfide (Ag2S). It has been suggested that these defects might come from airborne silver aerosols in the room where the coins are struck, rather than from the bulk of the metal since the purity is so high.
http://projects.itn.pt/Corregidor/18.pdf

If I bought a modern proof gold coin like this, I would not want it to have such a defect.
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OP. I think the overwhelming consensus it to get rid of it.
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I appreciate the input. I already emailed them to send back and try one last time. Kind of makes me mad that such a high premium coin would not be somewhat inspected before sending it out, its not like theres thousands of them being sold every day. Anywho, its going back, thanks for the help.
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makes me mad that such a high premium coin would not be somewhat inspected


These are government employees paid to "check a box". They don't care.
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And yes send it back.
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