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Grrrrr... I Bid On A Coin I Didn't Want... And Won.

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I was looking for a 1993 silver proof Kennedy half for my album and figured I'd get a slabbed pr69 and crack it out. I put "1993 S silver proof Kennedy half" in the search and found a few listed, so I put in my max bid and waited.
This morning I found out I won and went to pay and that's when I realized the listing was for a clad proof..
Lesson learned, don't rely on search results, double check all descriptions.
I guess I'll just put this in with my other slabs and use it as a cheap reminder to be careful in the future.



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No return privileges?
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Or re-sell it for a less expensive lesson?

Just one of many ways auctions can wreak havoc. I'm kicking myself because I forewent bidding on a couple of attractive items at an auction this weekend because my research told me they would likely go for 100% or more above the starting price.

They sold at one increment above the starting bid.
Of course you never know if the winner had a much higher bid in, but it still leaves you kicking yourself wondering.
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@DM, sorry to hear of your auction mis-step, but remember that coin collecting can be a lifelong pursuit and so little speed bumps like this are just part of the journey. Or if that is too much Zen for you, then sure see about a return.
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 Posted 03/17/2019  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeputyMax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the advice everybody, but I think I'll just keep it as a reminder to check listings carefully. It's really not a lot of money, and it would be more trouble than it's worth to return it.
I was just ranting at my own stupidity.
For what it's worth, I have seen lots described as (fill in the year) proof not silver, I guess the program sees the word silver and puts them in with the silver coins. I've wondered if the seller did this intentionally, looking for someone to make the same mistake I did. They can easily use the word clad instead.
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I have seen lots described as (fill in the year) proof not silver, I guess the program sees the word silver and puts them in with the silver coins. I've wondered if the seller did this intentionally...

I'm sure they do, and it's actually against ebay "search and browse manipulation" policies: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/...licy?id=4243 -- "Comparisons between products aren't allowed. For example, you can't say things like 'shirt not pants' or 'video not Nano'". Not that ebay strictly enforces this rule (or many others, for that matter).
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You can always ask seller to cancel. Most will but there is an occasional dh that won't. I had a malfunction with a sticky key and bid more than I wanted. I asked the seller to cancel but instead had a shill bid it up high. Much higher than the coin was worth. After 4 e-mails asking him to cancel, I called e-bay help line. They were somewhat helpful. In the end, I did not have to buy coin. Stinx because I had bought from this seller before and would have again, but not now. Never again.
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I'm kicking myself because I forewent bidding on a couple of attractive items at an auction this weekend because my research told me they would likely go for 100% or more above the starting price.


So why not just bid your max and if you win you win. If not you're out nothing.
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You can always ask seller to cancel.


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Just one more reason to go to coin shows.
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It's very possible the seller did not put "silver" in the title. I'm often scratching my head at all the irrelevant items I get in ebay searches, because it adds listings that are missing at least one of my search words, and not just in the "fewer words" area below the main search results.

If the seller used the word "silver" in a misleading way, I'd encourage you to return the coin. If ebay messed up the search with their lame AI, maybe you can get them to give you some kind of rebate or extra ebay bucks or something.
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I put "1993 S silver proof Kennedy half" in the search and found a few listed, so I put in my max bid and waited.

Did you actually put 1993 S silver proof Kennedy half in quotation marks? If so that SHOULD have returned listing with that exact phrase in the title. I will agree though that ebay does tend to include non-relevant listing too though.
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I didn't use quotation marks around 1993 S silver proof Kennedy half, but next time time I'll be sure to do that.
I've been putting different coins in searches since this happened, and without fail I get other coins mixed in with the results.
I'm just going to keep this one. Like I said, it really wasn't a lot of money, and it's more trouble than it's worth to return it or try to cancel the order. It was my fault for not paying attention.
Lesson learned - carefully read the description before bidding.
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I was once checking the Heritage auctions on a Tuesday evening. I was at the coin club so I was checking it on my phone. My phone slipped out of my hand and when I grabbed it I realized I had placed a bid on a Capped Bust quarter for $200. I waited, going once, going twice, .... $210 and I was clear. Phew! I will never browse auctions on my phone again without disabling live bidding.
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The problem with using quotes around a long phrase is that you'll miss alternative word orders, such as "Silver 1993 S."

If I remember right, you can use quotes around a single word to make sure it's in the title.
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If that's the worst mistake you make with coins you'll be doing well. I'm pretty sure everyone here has few stories like that, there's probably a thread or two dedicated to these stories.
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