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The Sheldon Scale needs to be modified for clad coins. The wear on them is significantly lower than silver issues. Clad coins are harder than silver and have been circulating for 55 years now.
A XF clad quarter may take 35 years to get to that point. The 1983 issue is a good example of actual wear because we don't have uncirculated sets being spent at face value years later.
I have a 44 WLC that my grandpa pulled from circulation on July 8, 1962 as an experiment. He wanted to compare it to the same coins in another 18 years (not knowing silver would soon disappear).
I'm going to pull the next 2001 quarter I get and compare it to the still circulating ones in 2037. I don't think there will be much differance.
The amount of wear on clads do not reflect the amount of circulation. The Sheldon Scale will tell us how to grade based on what is missing from the coin, but it uses the same standard for softer silver.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a new grading system for clads that is more in-line with the circulation of the coin?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They certainly wear more slowly than silver, but it does happen eventually. I'm sure you've seen what most of the circulating 1965 quarters look like now. I personally don't feel like a new scale is necessary as long as we recognize that clad and silver coins in the same grade haven't necessarily circulated for the same amount of time. That said, I'm still interested in hearing about the results of your experiment, assuming I'm still on CCF in 2037.  Edited by Numisma
03/28/2019 01:46 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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You grade the coin by the condition that it is currently in nothing more. It doesn't really matter how much time it takes. Gold is soft and is graded differently already because of that.
1983 is actually a terribly example by the way, that year was very poorly made overall.
Point really is that when it comes to grading all that matters is what you see at that point when you're talking about heavily circulated coins
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As an experiment, pulling out one coin is insufficient data. You would have to pull out dozens at least because any given coin would have a variable amount of wear.
In theory one could issue a super-hard coin that wears so slowly that is still xf after 50 years, or a super-soft coin that is almost slick after a year.
Some coins circulated very little due to inflation.
What that would mean is that xf coins of the first would always be common, but xf coins of the second would be rather scarce. It seems to me that hardness of the material or the degree of circulation should have little to do with a grading scale.
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You grade the coin by the condition that it is currently in nothing more. It doesn't really matter how much time it takes. Agreed. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 |
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You grade the coin by the condition that it is currently in nothing more. It doesn't really matter how much time it takes.  |
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You grade the coin by the condition that it is currently in nothing more. It doesn't really matter how much time it takes. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Forum Dad
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The Sheldon Scale needs to be modified for clad coins. I very much disagree. Reminds me of " Mint condition for it's age," age and condition are separate things. |
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All coins wear differently depending on who, where, how they are used. A clad coin is just a coin. Same with a Gold, Silver or even Platinum. They are all just coins.
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I agree that the grade represents wear. I may focus too much on the history part of it. For example, times of hoarding and shortages such as during the Civil War and Presidental Reconstruction. Also, silver issues that were circulating during the Panic of 1873 and high-grade depression era coins. With that being said, I still can't tell a MS70 from a 69 or a 66 from a 67. I've read the ANA Grading Guide, books about individual series, photograde, and compared slabbed examples. Does anyone have any recommended resources for differentiating the top 5 grades? |
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