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How Hard Is It To Find Errors?

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JohnnyDJersey's Avatar
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 Posted 08/18/2008  10:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JohnnyDJersey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ive looked through somewhere around 450$ worth of pennies and I have yet to find anything of real value. three 2000 wide ams, 1998 Wide AM,1903 indian head and between 10 and 25 wheats per box (1909, 1913, 1915, some 20s ect.) I look for 70s small date, 72 dd, 83 dd, 84 dd, 92 Close AM, 94 dd and 97 dd. Should I have found one of the by now or are they that rare. Any other known errors I should keep an eye out for?
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 Posted 08/18/2008  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None of the coins you listed are errors, they are die varieties. If that is what you are looking for, you may want to try looking for RPMs(repunched mint marks) as well but there are many more doubled dies that you did not list. You will probably want to get a Lincoln series book or CherryPickers' Guide Vol 1 and also check out the varieties by year and mint mark at http://www.coppercoins.com/.

If you are looking for errors, most of them are pretty obvious and readily stick out but can be difficult to find and many will not fit in a roll. Also, errors since 2000 are incredibly difficult to find since the Mint has implemented some new procedures for reducing the release of errors(riddling machines to remove wrong sized coins, not shipping bags anymore, etc). Incomplete planchets(clips), off center, Cud, broadstrike, double strike, off metal, brockage, etc are all errors. If you are wanting to learn more about them, I suggest this book.

If finding something of value in change was so easy, everyone would be doing it
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KurtS's Avatar
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 Posted 08/18/2008  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll just remark on one variety, the 70-S small date. As others here would say, this one is very hard to find in circulation. It's possible, but I haven't seen one after 15 years of searching, and I used to get 70-S LMCs quite regularly. You're more likely to find one in a dealer's box of cents cut from mint sets--I found one there recently. Good luck!
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I don't roll search, but the wife & I throw change in a bowl that I go through before we spend it. I'd guess I look at a few hundred dollars every year. From where I sit you are doing pretty good. I haven't found any of the ones you have listed, although I have found a couple dollars face value of silver over the last few years.
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if errors were easy to come by they wouldn't be worth as much because everyone would be finding them everytime they searched
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probobly the easiest errors to find are Struck Through Grease, and misaligned dies. They bring little premiums compaired to other errors because they are so common. I suggest nickels if you are looking for other types of errors, die breaks of all sizes are much easier to find in nickels because the metal is harder and therefore dies wear and break more easily. Clipped planchets and other errors are also comparitavely common in nickels.
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You've looked through 45,000 cents which is .00001 % of the number of just the Lincoln memorial cents. So for all practical purposes, you really haven't searched that many coins at all. I other words, yes they are that rare.
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I have searched over $900 worth of pennies and have not found a 1970s small date or for that matter a 1960 small date(I see plenty of 60 d small dates)and have never found a 1909 wheat or an Indian Head cent. My best find is a 1982 s proof cent. I think you have been very fortunate with your finds so far.
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Peter THOMAS's Avatar
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 Posted 08/18/2008  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it seems to me that:
the more I look ...
the luckier I get.
Peter in Oz
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My kids and I just went through $50 worth of pennies and found NO Wide AM's. That is what I was hoping for. Found plenty of 82 and 82D small dates both varieties; 15 wheats in the 40's and 50's; 6 canadians, 1 blank planchet; 1-2002 very weak obv; a 1969 with GRANT TAKES RICHMOND engraved on obv in a shadow box with an arrow pointing to Lincoln's mouth, cartoon like; 1- 199? that takes 10X to read is it so weak with a nice reverse; lastly a 1995 with the planform of an apple punched out. Probably compliments of a phone manufacturer. My son was able to nearly complete his LMC's. So it was pretty good afterall but the Wide AM's have me baffled.
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quote: "... GRANT TAKES RICHMOND engraved on obv in a shadow box with an arrow pointing to Lincoln's mouth, cartoon like ..."
- a hobo-penny ?
... and a bit witty, also.
Peter
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 Posted 08/18/2008  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littleboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it depends on what kind of error coin you're looking for
coins Struck Through Grease are easy to find in almost every roll. die cracks can be found on many coins.
i guess you can call these errors but they arent really too desirable to most collectors.
errors like unstruck planchets or offcenter strikes are most desirable but less likely to find
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 Posted 08/18/2008  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is all total luck. I've searched through at least one box of pennies per week for over a year, and except for a couple of older wheats, a really nice 1929 Canada cent, a die adjustment piece, and five 2000 Wide AM's, I had found nothing. Until last week, when in two consecutive boxes in two days I found a 1999 Wide AM and a 1995 Doubled Die. Total luck!
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 Posted 08/18/2008  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnnyDJersey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah a 1999 Wide AM is one of my goals. Any double die would be nice too.
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