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Looking To Maybe Buy And Grade, 1891 O Morgan

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There is zero chance that coin would grade a 64 or 65, so if that possibility is part of the equation of how much you're willing to pay for a coin, you'll often end up overpaying. I think MS-63 is a much more realistic "down the middle" grade for raw, uncirculated Morgans, but even that is a stretch with this coin.
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I have just reviewed this thread.
I have to agree with Kanga.
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I would be most concerned about those reverse scratches as well.
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Unc Details.
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At least 60% chance it will details (maybe the owner cracked it out of a details slab?). If not, then 62-63 at best. No chance at 64 imo, NS, I'd review those scratches by the eagle and the one on the obverse.
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The cheek has two scratches and roller mark.
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Most definitely MS details for the reverse scratches.
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Well if it looks as bad as the pictures, it will go back, out $3.00, just renting lol
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If that's graffiti, it would kill the value.


Yes, the reverse field scratches are significant even if they're not graffitti.

If it straight-graded, and that's a big if, then MS63 is as high as I could see it grading.
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UNC Details scratched. This coin will body bag.
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Ok, as most of the concern is with the back, here is a HD uncut down pick of the areas in question.

I will say this, it's a shame because with the naked eye you cant see it.

I think it's going back :)

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Ok, as most of the concern is with the back, here is a HD uncut down pick of the areas in question.


That limited view gives an impression of a coin that is not Mint State.

It would be interesting to do some sleuthing and find out if this one came out of a Details slab.
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I think you are probably right, I checked out more of the guy's coins, and I think he does a lot of volume, and doesn't mind offering the free returns.

I may not be good at this yet, but I am good at cash flow. He just runs the numbers, and eventually someone keeps it.

I noticed similar flaws in alot his coins.

What I'm interested in learning, is if the scratches are "intentional" as some have said, it's not a common subject that I have read about, and am interested in less traveled roads in the grading community.

Thanks again for the input all.
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Very unlikely those scratches are intentional. Many otherwise pristine coins out of bags have portions that look like they survived a knife fight. It doesn't hurt the grade that much, since bag marks are the norm for uncirculated Morgans. Thanks to some outstanding luster, I'd put this one at MS-63. Too baggy for a 64.
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