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1888 Indian Cent (Snow-2, Fs#1c-010.7?)

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 Posted 08/21/2008  04:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
New arrival, purchased as FS 010.7 1888/887 or also as 1888 Snow 2,
which some say is a 1888/7. Low grade, but under the stereoscope, the serif of the 7 in the top loop of the last 8 is visible. Also the "spike" from the bead is worn , but apparent under the scope where you can tilt the coin a little as you look at it. With this chinese microscope camera, it's difficult to see both edges of the protrusion. But, I am unsure of this one, and may send it off to ANACS.

Jim


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 Posted 08/21/2008  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this coin certified as Snow 2 by one of the top grading companies?
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Great, another IHC enthusiast! I have studied this particular variety for a long time, hoping to find one unattributed.
Did you buy this raw from a collector? In any case, I see the markers inside the 8s. The spike is a clincher for me, even if it appears worn (it may just be a later die state). If you're still curious, you could post the whole date as overall position is a marker too.

Additionally, I can show your coin to Rick Snow and get his opinion. At first glance and comparing to my attribution guide, I'd say yes.
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And, in case this helps, here is a SEM of a high-grade copy. I see the last vertical die gouge marker in the upper loop of the last 8 is present,
as well as that trace W. of the 8 (which may be an underlying 8 or a 7):

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Thanks Kurt,

I may take you up on the attribution. I have to admit, I purchased it on ebay and from one of those descriptions with Color and all of the warning signs that says not to. Listed as from an estate collection. Photos were useless and a 3 day return, but I figured it would be worth the return postage if it wasn't one.I have been looking for a possible one for a long time. I will get a photo of the whole date and post it.

Mycrob, No, it is a raw coin, probably a G6 or so, and would be marked as "cleaned" I am sure. I get a lot of fun researching and "thinking" about raw ones before I send them away. I, like Kurt, seem to think the main attribution points are there, but I always have a little doubt

Jim
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Jim,
It's always good to have some doubt.
In terms of attribution, what I had in mind was posting your photos on Rick Snow's forum and getting his input.
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Here is a complete date. I now notice that the small die cracks converging on the left denticle under the last 8 are the same appearing as in the Cherrypicker FS# 1C 010.7 photo, and the die break on the reverse described in CPG at k-7:30 going to a point in the wreath opposite the C in cent is also apparent. Boosts my confidence.You can use photos.

Jim

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The reverse die break is another strong confirmation. Seems pretty conclusive to me.
I'll post the pics in Rick Snow's forum. It's a rather quiet place, and takes a while to get feedback.
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