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Strange 2008 Lincoln

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It's been pouring down rain here all day so I thought I'd go through the change I collected this week. Nothing interesting except for this 2008 Lincoln Cent. These are the best pictures I could come up with, so please bear with me.

I'm definitely NOT an expert of Lincoln's, but have never seen anything that looked like this before. It looks to me like the die was heavily polished. This is most evident on Lincolns hair & at the base of the bust. The hair is flat in places, & the VD of VDB is gone. On the reverse it looks like the D in UNITED & S in States are about half gone. Although the photos don't show it clearly, there are obvious parallel lines running through the fields surrounding the affected areas.

What do ya'll think?

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 Posted 08/23/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The effect you see is extremely common. It's caused by an accumulation of oil or grease in the recesses of the die. The oil has no texture of its own but instead preserves the original streaky texture of the unstruck planchet.
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Thanks Mike, I've seen plenty of these and always assumed they just got stuck on a conveyor belt for a peroid of time before being knocked loose and continueing on there way. I guess because the stirations look like wear lines.
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I've seen plenty of Grease Filled Dies before & know they are common. I guess I never looked closely enough at one to notice the texture around the missing design elements. Thinking about the process I can't come up with any way that polishing or filing the die could cause what I'm seeing without affecting more of the coin. Am I correct in assuming that a blank planchet would show a texture of parallel lines under magnification?
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If you find an off-center strike in which the die-struck portion was struck through "grease", then you'll see absolute continuity between the streaks on the unstruck part of the planchet and the streaks in the grease-struck areas.
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trdhrdr007; I posted a coin with the same marks and what looked like some grease still there and I was told that someone torched it, but I had the coin in hand and knew better. GREASE. What do you think?
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rockdude... your picture shows the "texture" that I was unable to & the hair looks very close to mine so I vote grease.

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ROCKDUDE it looks like zinc corrosion I see quite a few of them. I have also seen them corrode from the inside out also. You will see small bubbles form under the copper plating.
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