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1915-D Wheat Cent - Double Die Reverse?

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Hello everyone. I came across this 1915-D Wheat cent while going through a bag of pennies I had found when metal detecting. As can be seen from the photo, the coin has sustained environmental damage, but it still has some good details.

While removing the caked-in soil, I noticed that the reverse appears to have a doubling on the last three letters of PLURIBUS. If this is a die error, is it a known one? Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
1915-D-Wheat-Cent---Double-Die-Reverse?
1915-D-Wheat-Cent---Double-Die-Reverse?
1915-D-Wheat-Cent---Double-Die-Reverse?
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Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling, from a worn die issue.
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A coin that should be left in that condition. Don't clean it. It looks fine the way it is. The green is from contact with moisture. Doesn't come off. Even when tried to be removed by a conservation:
1915-D-Wheat-Cent---Double-Die-Reverse?
Note the green spots on the before and after images. To be having this done, just ruins the coin in my eyes. Note the tips of the feathers on the left wing on the before and and after images. You can see where the coin was a un-circulated coin, but now shows coin wear on those tips. When the original surface is altered, it is no longer a mint state coin any longer. Part of the surface was removed. Thus the wear appearance on the tips of the feathers. (Click to enlarge the coin)
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Definitely a keeper though.
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Errers and Varietys > Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling, from a worn die issue.



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Definitely a keeper though.


This is helpful. Thank you for the speedy reply!



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coop > A coin that should be left in that condition. Don't clean it. It looks fine the way it is. The green is from contact with moisture. Doesn't come off. Even when tried to be removed by a conservation


Thank you, coop. I will be leaving it as is. Thanks again!
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Some may wonder why I'm so vocal on not altering coins. When I was a young collector, I bought a coin from a fellow student that was a copper-nickel cent. It was green, so I tried adjusting the color. When I put it into something acidic, the surface just fell off the coin. That coin was ruined. So I speak out often about altering coins. No use letting someone else not know my failure. If I had left the coin alone, it would still have value. In the condition it turned into, it is now just a copper-nick slug.
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coop > Some may wonder why I'm so vocal on not altering coins. When I was a young collector, I bought a coin from a fellow student that was a copper-nickel cent. It was green, so I tried adjusting the color. When I put it into something acidic, the surface just fell off the coin. That coin was ruined. So I speak out often about altering coins. No use letting someone else not know my failure. If I had left the coin alone, it would still have value. In the condition it turned into, it is now just a copper-nick slug.


It is good advise, coop. I have similarly ruined a few coins while attempting to remove verdigris or what would seem like unslightly spotting. I now just remove as much of the caked-in soil as possible and then leave the coin as is.
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I think it's difficult to generalize about this subject. Restoration/conservation can be useful in certain circumstances.
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Awesome find angellionel!

And very nice photos.
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Not if a coin suffers damage that ruins a premium for a coin that would have some value and is reduced to nil when cleaning is wrong and leave permanent damage to the coin. I just wish I had images of the before and after on my coin. If I spot another coin that looked like that, that image I will save. (Probably find an image like that on ebay)
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