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1934 Wreath Crown, Your Thoughts?

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Hi all,I'm a newbie here.

I have just purchased a 1934 wreath crown that has spent its life within the centre dail of a finger dial telephone that was made in 1933 and came from the "Crown Hotel" in Harrogate UK. The phone was a pyramid type and seems to have been made especially for the Hotel given its name "Crown Hotel" and that the Hotel name was on the body of the phone too.

The coin was in the centre of the finger dail where normally there would be a sticker and it was stuck in with a black resin type substance.

I have managed to remove the coin from the phone dial without any damage occurring, but had to boil it in order to remove the residual material. Surprisingly enough it has come out great, but I may do a Baking soda and aluminium foil wash just to finish it off.

Here are some photos of said coin in its housing and after removal and I would really like to pick forum members brains about their thoughts to see if they are in agreement with me on its authenticity.

I do own a full set of replica wreath crowns just for their appeal, but recently saw this up for auction and thought what the heck, why not?

With the coin being encased in some sort of glue/resin this would have put a lot of bidders off because there was no way of knowing what the head side would look like and if indeed there was some chemical reaction damage to the coin. In fact there is very little, just a tiny bit that should come out with a Baking Soda bath.

Take a look guys, opinions appreciated.

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..to see what members say to the boiling water cleaning...
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to CCF. Only use 100% pure acetone not baking soda/foil dip.
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I saw your posts in another forum as well, and was looking forward to the pictures.
It looks OK. Please don't use baking soda/foil on it - you will take away what little natural patina remains. As suggested above use Acetone or Surgical Spirit to remove any remaining glue residue, and then leave it in peace.
Looks to be a very nice pick-up!
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Looks genuine to me. Amazing story!
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to the CCF!
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Please don't clean it!

It looks nice as it is, probably at least VF+ to aEF.
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If that had been in the centre of the phone since 1934 with all the atmospherics of the times in the hotel wouldn't it be toned? Looks far too clean for something out in the air for 80+ years. I also don't like that double rim and extra teeth.Get it checked I keep banging on about this series of coins. The fakes are superbly made and really only the RM can tell you if it is the real deal. These coins should all come with proven provenance if they don't you could be opening a can of worms. Coins in middle of phones sounds a nice back story so do the thousands of found in the attic that never were. Just being Devils Advocate :)
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