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They're just labeling them for what they are though. Labels are a result of the coin not the other way around. True, but the Mint could stop this practice in a heartbeat by changing their shipping processes. |
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True, but the Mint could stop this practice in a heartbeat by changing their shipping processes. Which would be disingenuous of the mint. They could really stop it by making them all at one place. My point though was that the TPGs are just labeling them for what they actually are which really is what we should want them to do. |
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is there a reason why the SF mint doesn't put a mintmark on the bullion strikes minted in SF?
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Bullion ASE's are intended to be...bullion...totally a spot silver play. No need to say on the product where it was manufactured I'm not into the (S) etc. labels BUT I get it. Same as coins slabbed from sets that are the same as coins not from the sets. Labels confirm where they originated but out of the slab there is no difference in the coin. Edited by Foxwoods Man
06/19/2019 06:13 am
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Not exactly. With varieties, there is an actual difference (perhaps minor, but still discernable) of some kind between the coins.
I did not say they were the same, only that I can relate the ideas. Both are collecting something that is different other than the typical date-mint sets the plurality like to build. I chose to say minor varieties because more often than not the major ones make the mainstream lists and have holes for them in the albums (I doubt you will ever see Dansco make separate holes for (S) and (W) ASE coins). |
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Just my opinion but a coin should speak for itself. I can tell a S Morgan from a CC Morgan by the coin. I can't tell diddly from this coin except the year and what it is. I can assume the TPG put it in the correct holder but absent the holder in a pile with other coins I doubt I could pick out the mint. I suppose there might be a die variation but that's putting a fine line on it. If it is in a sealed mint tube marked with the mint than the tube itself is marked but once the coins are out of it all bets are off. If you break a CC Morgan out of a slab and submit it as a raw coin it will come back as a CC Morgan. This would come back as just another ASE |
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Just my opinion but a coin should speak for itself. I can tell a S Morgan from a CC Morgan by the coin. I do not doubt you. I have gotten rather good at telling the Philly and a Denver business strike Ikes apart (in hand) without relying on the mint mark. |
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I do not doubt you. I have gotten rather good at telling the Philly and a Denver business strike Ikes apart (in hand) without relying on the mint mark. And for every issue in the series, Denver outperformed Philly in terms of quality (strike, luster, etc.). |
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is there a reason why the SF mint doesn't put a mintmark on the bullion strikes minted in SF? Of course. It wasn't part of the contract. That's how it works, do what the contract says, no more and no less. The Government employees basically just check the boxes, no original thought allowed. |
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thanks, jimbucks. I learn something new every day. that (a contract) is something I had not considered. well.. to each his/her own. everyone's got their own way of assembling their collections. it is interesting to know of the various mints producing the ASEs, granted, but those bullion strikes are all the same to me. I don't go out of my way to acquire TPG ASEs that differentiate (W) from (S). the coins themselves are virtually the same. there's nothing on the bullion coin itself that differentiates one from the other, so my interest is not piqued, although I totally understand the perspective of the collector whose interest is piqued by it. fly how you will, beautiful birds... |
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And for every issue in the series, Denver outperformed Philly in terms of quality (strike, luster, etc.). Truth.  Quote:
The Government employees basically just check the boxes, no original thought allowed. It is very common in industry and for the most part this is a good thing. I would hate it if the manufacturer got creative producing our product. Specs are important. Very important. |
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And for every issue in the series, Denver outperformed Philly in terms of quality (strike, luster, etc.). Let me add some controversy. Does the above statement imply that different TPG standards are used, that is, is a MS-70 from one mint of different quality than a MS-70 from another mint? Or, alternatively, are MS-70 quality scarcer depending on mint? |
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Quote:Let me add some controversy. Does the above statement imply that different TPG standards are used, that is, is a MS-70 from one mint of different quality than a MS-70 from another mint? Or, alternatively, are MS-70 quality scarcer depending on mint? That statement was in reference to Ikes, and yes because of the difference in quality the Denver coins are held to a slightly higher standard. |
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Or, alternatively, are MS-70 quality scarcer depending on mint? I would vote for that choice. A 70 grade coin should be a 70 grade coin and that should (does) not depend on where it came from. |
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