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This One Seem Silver

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 Posted 06/23/2019  4:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add manry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can you help me with this?
Thx in advance




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 Posted 06/23/2019  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I fixed up the photos a bit and oriented the horseman,
CENTRAL EUROPE. West Noricum. Tetradrachm (2nd/1st century BC). "Tinco" type.
Obv: Head of Apollo
Rev: TINCO.
Horseman left,
Dembski 785.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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GOD I cannot believe it I must tell a big THXX
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 Posted 06/23/2019  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow my eyes are really bad, I was having trouble making out the detail on this one. Nice find.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Manry;

There are expert computer system that memorize every know thing in a class (which is not all that useful for a dirty worn coin the computer has never seen), and there are artificial computer neural networks that can learn from training with known photos of a "g" or "j" for example scribbled down by people and inputted in training sets that once the system guesses wrong and it told the correct answer it changes weights of the connecting neurons or transfer functions etc until it is made to predict unknowns to a 90% correct tolerance and released on the market for sale. (acsearch I think is trying this out for a fee if you pay per coin photo you submit). But with all our human minds looking at your coin, we essentially function as neural network I think the computers can only dream of matching. They will in time but someone will have to input all known ancient coin photo and it will take forever. And one wrong input where the person says this is a Denarius of Caracalla and it is Elagabalus and the system won't know any better and change all the weighting neurons to make that wrong prediction happen so the artificial neural network can actually get dumber in the wrong hands. Our human neural network self corrects much easier if there is a mistake in interpretation.
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Maybe without your help I never can I'd this this community is awesome
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 Posted 06/23/2019  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last question if you know is this silver?
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 Posted 06/23/2019  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe these are debased silver, yes.
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 Posted 06/23/2019  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Manry;

You really do need to invest in a camera that does not show every coin blue first. I mean of course aside from this coin, you have a bronze probably Emperor Probus also as a blue coin. The photo should reflect what you actually see and there is software to fix problems when you take the photo. So upload it after you feel it reflects the reality of the actual color you see. Then we can have a better chance of telling you if the coin is silver etc. Just a suggestion of course.
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 Posted 06/24/2019  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I using a Samsung Galaxy s8 plus for getting photoes and the greenish coins you seem I can tell you reflect the real colours 100%. I was thinking this is silver cause the head of Apollo clearly silver. Do you have some suggestions what professional cam is good for coins?
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Very appreciate thx all too
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Manry;

When you say your camera gives the correct colors 100%, which I do of course believe you, then you have to be photographing in a green light perhaps? Below are both the coins you posted recently. And you noted the first one looked silver to you. They both look kind of the same green.
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Possible is the light but mainly the roman coin have that exact greenish colour. When I talk you of silver I mean the part of head of Apollo that is clearly in silver.
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