I Just Have To Open This Coin For Discussion, Vrbs Roma She Wolf In Silver

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louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1305 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 7:35 pm This was in an estate I am going through. People are telling me it is not a fouree, it, being silver and not plated, is probably some piece made for a specific reason perhaps something someone used for a gift or funeral device. Just interesting and I think the discussion would be interesting. (I did write fouree on it as it is silver and these coins of this series are not silver coins. But as someone pointed out to me, fouree means plated and this is not.) Constantine I, 307-337AD. Nicomedia, Follis VRBS ROMA, SMNE, Wolf Twins Helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left / She-wolf standing left, suckling the twins Romulus and Remus: SMNE in ex. 17 mm, 2.26 grams. Edited by louisvillekyshop 06/27/2019 7:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 7:43 pm My gut says modern forgery. It's "circulated" fairly heavily, especially on the reverse, but the obverse legends are nearly untouched? Doesn't smell right to me. Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1305 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 7:48 pm Fin235: Take a look at this one from Roma Numismatics, a past sale: They write: "Constantine I, Contemporary Imitation, Commemorative AR Follis. Siscia, AD 334-335. Helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left / She-wolf standing left, suckling the twins Romulus and Remus; two stars above; ΓSIS. Unpublished and Unique. Cf. RIC 240; LRBC 750. 2.86g, 17mm, 12h. Attractively toned, edge slightly filed (silver test on 6h), Good Very Fine. In ancient times, it was customary to replace real coins with contemporary imitations or pseudo-coins to leave with the dead during burial so that the deceased could pay (or trick) the boatman Charon to ferry them across the river Styx. Perhaps a regular follis would not have been enough and was replaced with our Urbs Roma Follis in silver." Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 9:31 pm A poorly cast modern replica, as is the Roma coin in my opinion. Note that the Roma description states "edge slightly filed". The accompanying commentary is utter nonsense. As a side note, fourree literally means "stuffed" in French, which gives some idea of its meaning as a numismatic term. Edited by Kushanshah 06/27/2019 9:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1305 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 10:13 pm Kushanshah; If you think I should end the auction I will do that right away. I don't want to sell a modern replica. If you are sure, this has to comedown correct? Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 10:29 pm I'm with Finn and KS on this one. Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 06/27/2019 11:02 pm Quote: If you think I should end the auction I will do that right away. I don't want to sell a modern replica. I'm confident that it's not ancient. Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1305 Posts	Posted 06/28/2019 04:15 am OK, I ended the auction. Thanks: Report this Post to the Staff
jskirwin Pillar of the Community United States 616 Posts	Posted 06/28/2019 10:58 am You rock. If only more sellers had as much integrity as you... Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34413 Posts	Posted 06/28/2019 5:24 pm "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1305 Posts	Posted 06/28/2019 10:36 pm But there are plated silver ones genuine correct? Just not full silver. https://www.ebay.com/itm/AR-follis-...AOSwBA1dFiGo https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silvering-...AOSwV25cumza Report this Post to the Staff
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