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Question About Pride Of 2 Nations Set

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Are there other plans to release the "enhanced reverse proof" 2019-W ASE either singly or in sets, or will this be the only way to obtain it?

Also, can you spot the obvious mistake about it on the mint's website. Stupidity within the Government, what a shock.

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It's supposed to be the only way to get it as of now and most likely will remain that way
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It's sure to be the only way to obtain it as it's the first time they have done this finish on an ASE.
What mistake on the website are you referring to?
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Well the "mistake" that was being discussed was the 100k mintage of the ASE when in reality it is 110K. Nothing on the provided screen snip sticks out to me as being in error...
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Actually if you look at the weights of the 2 coins you will see the error. Same error is on RCM site.
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Weight of similar CA coin...Composition 99.99% pure silver

Weight (g) 31.39
Diameter (mm) 34


Weight of similar ASE proof (2019)..

Composition: 99.9% Silver
Weight 1.000 troy oz
(31.103 grams)

What is the difference that needed a separate thread.....
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Actually if you look at the weights of the 2 coins you will see the error.

Technically the Canadian coin is 0.09% more silver. That would provide a minor weight difference between the coins. They are each a troy oz of silver, but have a slightly different amount of filler.

Unless there's something else I'm not seeing either.
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Ok...I might see it. I compared the new CA issue to similar CA coins and the US ASE to other ASE's...there is no difference in weight compared to previous issues...BUT... WHY would a higher silver content coin (CA) weigh MORE than the slightly lower silver content coin ( ASE)?

A 5 ounce 100% silver coin would weigh 5 ounces but to get the same amount of silver a 50% silver coin would weigh 10 ounces...

Better purity...less filler for the higher % one....the CA coin in question should weigh LESS not more than the ASE.

A 100% silver one ounce coin would weigh 28.35 grams (edit: incorrect)

Does that make sense? Note: I haven't finished my morning coffee yet so still a bit blurry....
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1 Troy oz = 31.10 grams
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Correct...my mistake. Question still remains. How can the CA coin weigh more than the ASE since it SHOULD be closer to 31.1 grams than the ASE
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The US specification simply lists the mass of the silver. I have no idea how they calculated the Canadian mass specification.
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Yup...I get that thought....but that means, since a troy oz is 31.10 gms the ASE is 100% silver since that's the weight given by the Mint.

I always assumed it's the weight of the coin not the weight of what's in it....and still go with that
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ASE is specified to contain 0.999 t oz silver - 31.07g by wt.

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I checked the specs for a Canadian silver Maple Leaf. If this coin is minted on the same planchet, it should weigh 31.1g.

So, one t oz silver in the Canadian coin and 0.999 t oz in the ASE at the same gross weight.
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Like I said from the beginning, it appears there is an error in the specification for the Canadian coin.
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Like I said from the beginning, it appears there is an error in the specification for the Canadian coin.


But the Canadian Maple Leaf has a $5 denomination, which accounts for the extra grams.
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Like I said from the beginning, it appears there is an error in the specification for the Canadian coin.


Yup...and that's why I looked at ALL the CDN 1 oz silver coins presently available and they are all listed at that weight 31.39. Mentioned that a while back. So if it's an error it's a whopper and definitely not specific to this coin

Come on...someone here must know the answer. End this thread..."please"..(had to put "please" in quotes 'cuz the site auto corrected to "ple ASE")
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