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Some Great German Coins I Purchased!

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 Posted 09/05/2008  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some very nice coins! The Hesse-Darmstadt 5 Mark alone is likely worth around 1/2 of the money you spent. Are the fields around the eagle mirrored?
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 Posted 09/05/2008  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonS.7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jaysdad, I hear what your saying where I come from it's alot of money too! We must be near the same place. Even though this purchase was a huge financial gamble( one that I wont do again) it worked out for the better this time. After I purchased these I decided to make sure I do my homework before buying foreign coins again. For some reason these just felt right, and I really liked them too! I think that more than anything it taught me to look outside the box of my U.S. coins and now I learned how many beautiful coins there are in the world! Looking at these just floors me! As for the reflectivity goes on some of them it sure does look mirrored but mostly on the reverse of the coins. Similar to a DMPL Morgan Here are a few more coins. I beleive the 1/4 skilling is Norwegian which is where my grandmother is from. This coin will be a birthday present to my sister. The other large copper coin big nearly the size of a half dollar. I think it may be French. Also there is the 2 mark version of the Hesse Darmstadt.

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 Posted 09/06/2008  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I think your 1/4 Skilling is from Sweden.
The three crowns suggest that, as well as the King's intials:
GAIV = Gustav IV Adolf (1792-1809)
The Norwegian kings for 1808 were Christian VII or Frederik VI. (a year of succession)
Sorry--I think a Norwegian coin would be more interesting too.

Great toning on the German coins.
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09/06/2008 01:42 am
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 Posted 09/06/2008  02:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonS.7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see, well still very interesting! What is the best book for researching coins from the 1800-1900's? Thanks for the help.
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 Posted 09/06/2008  03:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now if all of these coins are genuine.. I'd call it a good deal! .. since you even got 2 Weimar commems in the lot..
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 Posted 09/06/2008  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could help on the book. Out of curiosity, I just checked against Sweden's king at the time.
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 Posted 09/06/2008  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonS.7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the pictures do they look real? I surely thought so when I first saw them. What are the Krause catalogs that are occasionally reffered to? Would that be a good book to pick up?
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 Posted 09/06/2008  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I meant this one.
You already have pre-1871 coins, and some catalogs start from 1871.
This includes 1601+

http://cgi.ebay.pl/Krause-German-Co...og_W0QQitemZ150186206191QQihZ005QQcategoryZ34448QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm no expert, but they don't look as like the fakes I've seen..

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 Posted 09/06/2008  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonS.7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to run to the book store to see what I can find. I am also trying to figure out how to make a gallery so hopefully I will be able to load up all the pictures onto there. Would some of these coins be worth getting graded from a TPG?
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 Posted 09/06/2008  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Germans publish a 1871+ listing with prices in some magazine too. But still, you have older coins as well..

If I had the opportunity, I would have the German silvers graded (what would also mean authenticating them). These aren't common German coins so copies might exist. I would want to be sure.
.. unless of course they were bought from a 100% sure, known, widely respected dealer/auction house etc. then it's not absolutely necessary, but still you could get them graded
They don't seem to have problems and the details look sharp.
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 Posted 09/06/2008  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tend to think the chief value of sending coins to a TPG is for resale of US coins where the market pays a substantial premium for them slabbed. Otherwise, there's no real added value there, especially since US TPGs do not grade non-US coins well--I've seen them make mistakes even for Canadian coins. I would only guess that experienced collectors of world coins know enough about particular coins as to make TPG grading a non-issue for the most part. (Unless D20K knows better here) While I cannot say with any real certainty, the coins you have here look genuine with original patina...the surfaces are as much a confirmation as the details.
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 Posted 09/06/2008  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well - here, graded coins do receive a premium when they're slabbed and therefore deemed to be genuine.
(Unless they're "graded" by EEC/GCN )
In the US, it might be different, and about that I can say nothing.
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 Posted 09/06/2008  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great set of coins ya got there.
Know of any more for the rest of us
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I just got back from the book store where I found a huge book of world coins I looked at it but didn't buy because it was 60$! It listed the Hesse Darmstadt being struck in a regular version and a proof version where the proof version has a matte finish on the obverse and a reflective shiny proof finish on the back, with a mintage of about 2,250. Could the two coins I have be the proof versions? The reverses sure do scream at me and the obverse looks real mattey!
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 Posted 09/06/2008  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The other large copper coin big nearly the size of a half dollar. I think it may be French.


Yes you are right. It is a 1792-A 2 sol piece of Louis XVI, the King of France who was beheaded in the French Revolution.
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