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I just got back in town to find this in the mail. I purchased this coin as a 1970S small date and paid an appropriate price. Somehow I don't get the warm fuzzy feeling about it. Can anyone chime in before I take the next step. nlp Image:  IMG_0030.jpg99.75 KB Image: IMG_0031.jpg91.15 KB I moved the lighting around for effect. LIBERTY looks strong and consistent to me and the loop of the 9 has always been tough for me to discern. Help a brother out! Image: IMG_0032.jpg98.62 KB |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like a large date to me, the 7 is too low IMO. Also, the loop in the 9 doesn't seem to curl around enough and it looks flat (the real small date is pointy). Can you post a close up of the date?
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I'll try but I don't think I can get closer. Also the corner of the 7 has the crease like a large date if that is always prevalent. I'm not an expert on these but it doesn't feel right. I try to use this for a guide. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...alldate.html |
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Here is about as close as I can get. nlp Image: IMG_0033.jpg94.84 KB |
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Somehow I don't get the warm fuzzy feeling about it. I get a warm feeling, but there's nothing fuzzy about it.   The 7 and 9 are all wrong. I'm certain it's a large date--was this ebay? Edited by KurtS
09/07/2008 7:27 pm
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Kurt, yes it was from a 100% feedback that had several other sales of the 70S's. messed up on this one I guess. nlp
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Sigh. I just scanned ebay and found more LDs than real SDs advertised as such.  Pretty bad. I hope you can return this one--good luck!  Edited by KurtS
09/07/2008 7:49 pm
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I agree, this is a large date. Let us know how it goes with the return.
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Yep I agree it's a Large Date. Sorry, but you must educate yourself 'before' the purchase.
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And yet another e-bay scam. They need to make people that sell commercially to have a graders license in order to sell to the public. Just like a plumber or electrician has to have certification. That way you know his license is on the hook if your house catches fire from bad wiring and he no longer can do it to someone else. Coins can run as much as a house wiring job also. Whats the difference?
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I've been in contact with the seller and he apologized for the oversight and has issued a refund. Thanks everyone for the assistance confirming the large date. I bought a whole set of LHC's on this forum and both the 70S's were large dates. I must not be the only one who has trouble with this date variety. nlp
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Bedrock of the Community
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Kurt has a very nice 70S small for sale....at least he did. That's one guy you can trust 100 percent!
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A true sm date 70-s will cost ya. That's how I can tell the difference. LOL
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Thanks for that...I really do it for other collectors. Nlp--good to hear you're getting refunded! I don't have any SDs right now, but below is the best one I've sold. Small Dates often have mushy details and numerous die scratches. This one was remarkably sharp with fantastic RB toning.  Edited by KurtS
09/07/2008 10:40 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Coins can run as much as a house wiring job also. Whats the difference?
A bad wiring job could cause your house to burn down, whereas a coin grade is nothing but an opinion*. *That opinion should be based on something resembling ANA grading standards but those standards are not measured on a quantitative scale, rather a qualitative scale hence coin grades are subject to bias. |
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Opinion? I always thought that if a coin is graded by a licensed grader(PCGS)it is official and has a serial# placed with it to prove it is what it is. It's either fact or fiction on a double die,small date or large date or if a coin is ms-70 it shouldn't be cleaned,scratched,ect. How can a opinion change a true grade of a coin. Only a big fat lie to a customer hoping they don't know any better about coins. I know it's not a house burning down but its false advertising and that should be illegal. I worked once selling stereo systems many customers thought they where buying a big whopping 500 watt stereos because that's what was written on the front of the box in big letters. But when they got home it wasn't nearly as loud as it was supposed to be. The government stepped in and made Sony,pioneer,ect put the true power output on the side of the box. And a compliant logo too. PCGS,ANA,ect is the compliant logo for coins I thought.Not just there opinion. A mechanic that you would want to work on your car should be ASE certified. So you have some piece of mind that it was done the right way when you pay good money for the service. I just think there should be a certification class(with a license number)to take before you sell to the public so they know they are not buying from a person that sells muffler bearings for a week then coins the next. Unless you tell them up front the coin may not be what I said it is and buy as is.LOL Of course this is just my opinion and my fake 2 cents I had to throw in that I can sell to someone tomorrow. he he Coindexter:-) |
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