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Morgan Dollar 1886 O

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Please grade


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Slightest discoloration on the center open fields usually indicates a bit of handling. But I'm not actually seeing any rub on the high points. No indication of cleaning. Typical strike.

MS 64. Eye Appeal 7/10.
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I'd say 64 as well. Nice example.
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64 as well, if that staple scatch wasn't there 65
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ok good to hear. Helps me to get over paying $19 for that Lincoln VDB
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64+. on the edge but not quite gem
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I'm way off all the other grades I think its a slider AU58
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what about the damaged "E" in one ?
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I'm with you panzaldi, I was thinking AU 58 slider. Darkness on the hair makes me think there is a touch of wear...
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Not Mint State. A slider AU. The coin has no luster and slight rub above the ear. don't know where a MS 64 grade would come from.
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MS60. Congratulations. A nice coin!
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There is almost a $500 price difference between AU58 and MS60. This is a major conditional rarity that needs to be sent to a TPG and graded.

I personally think it's on the unc side of slider.

These are the values for this coin depending on its grade:
AU58 - $300
MS61 - $800
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There are some things that concern me with this coin, in addition to what has been mentioned upthread.

I have not been able to match this to any of the 26 known VAMs for 1886-O. That isn't unusual. Some dates are hard to match from photographs.

The obverse shows some unusual surface traits. There is an unusual "blob" between the "6" in the date and the first right star. There is unusual porosity in several places, most notably in the rear hair curls near the fourth right star and unusual pitting between the individual curls. There is also an odd blob in the denticles beneath the "18" of the date. The reverse has similar traits. There is a die gouge through the top third of the mint mark. VAM-7 has a die gouge through the mint mark, but the gouge is much lower than on your coin. There are heavy die scratches in the loop of the bow, and I cannot match these to any known VAM. The area between the ends of the bow and the leaves shows what appears to be tooling marks. Photos of these areas are below.

The unusual damage to the "NE" of ONE and some of the deep and fairly fresh surface scratches (for example, between the first and second right stars and between the rear hair curl and third and fourth stars on the obverse) are causes for concern. The lighting in the photographs could hide some surface details.

Because of the rarity of high grade 1886-O dollars, I would urge serious caution when buying a raw coin. I would insist on having the coin graded and attributed by a reputable TPG as a condition of purchase.

Here are the detail photos:
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Ok thanks for the heads up fortcollins I'll send this off to a TPG in the coming weeks so I'll know if I got screwed or not!
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AU-58 details (if genuine). The surface has a sand blasted look to it. Some kind of cleaning took place.
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AU details due to being played with over the years.

Chances are that this coin has been previously submitted for TPG and it didn't turn out to good for the submitter.
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