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How To Spot Fake Gold Coins?

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I have the opportunity to buy a 1914 gold Indian $2.5 I am rather new to collecting gold coins and am always weary of buy loose gold. Is there a way to spot fake gold coins in person?
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Buy slabbed gold, I'm 100% serious.
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Easiest way is to weigh the coin and check diameter and thickness. Gold density is not easily replicated with the exception of tungsten which is not practical to make into fake coins.
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There is no easy way or quick fix to spot gold fake coins for the beginning collector. It is a tough series to detect counterfeits as a lot of the fake $2.50 Indians are made from real gold.
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Easiest way is to weigh the coin and check diameter and thickness. Gold density is not easily replicated with the exception of tungsten which is not practical to make into fake coins.


Many fake old gold coins are made of actual gold.


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Buy slabbed gold, I'm 100% serious.


This 100 percent
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The reason I say buy slabbed is for me, if I have a milimeter of doubt, I go slabbed. It's not that I don't trust myself, but a second opinion is always nice.
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ALL US coins that I buy are slabbed.
And I stick to PCGS and NGC.

I don't buy many 20th century coins and none after 1964.
And all my 20th century coins are MS.

I have a birth year set (1941) that is either MS-65 or -66.
My type set goes through 1964 so I have a bunch of 20th century coins there.
And my IHC set ends in 1909.

I have a non-US version of my birth year set but they are mostly inexpensive raw coins.
One exception is my birth year British Maundy set; it's slabbed.
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$2.5 IHG are one of the MOST faked coins according to NGC and PCGS both.

I'd SCREAM for the 100%.

It is EXTREMELY rare to get an amazing buy on coins until you've had a lot of guidance, books, and experience.

There will always be more neat coins to buy than money to buy with.
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Lots of ways but how successfult they will be depends on how well done the fake is. If you are looking for somerule or trike that will let you spot any fake gold coin, sorry it doesn't exist.
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There is no easy way or quick fix to spot gold fake coins for the beginning collector. It is a tough series to detect counterfeits as a lot of the fake $2.50 Indians are made from real gold.



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$2.5 IHG are one of the MOST faked coins according to NGC and PCGS both.



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It is EXTREMELY rare to get an amazing buy on coins until you've had a lot of guidance, books, and experience.


with each statement above! You won't find a "deal" on gold coins, why not? Because why would someone sell them at a discount from what they could get by taking them to a local gold buyer? That's not smart.

I have a friend that can pick out a fake gold $20 out of a pile and get it right 98% of the time, though he has years, and years of experience looking at them and has worked in the past for PCGS as a grader then finalizer, before leaving to start another TPG. He learned because he saw literally thousands of gold double eagles every day. His advice on coins now brings big money in itself as a consultant. You can't learn to spot gold coins from a book or online alone, you really need lots of hands on experience with many, many coins. The advice given so far is good here. Buy from reputable dealers only, buy slabbed coins form reputable dealers only, just a slabbed coin alone isn't good enough anymore, too many fake slabs out there on the internet and places like Craig's list, Etsy, etc.

Find a good dealer befriend them and learn, learn, learn.
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Heed the grading advice. Also, check the website and match the slab number for added authenticity. The number of counterfeit/tampered slabs is on the rise. Finally, stick to the top names. PCGS, NGC, ANACS.
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Are you buying from a known reputable dealer? If not, if you know someone who has many years under the belt in dealing with gold coins...Bring them along when purchasing. If possible, ask to take some pictures and post them here. If the person disagrees with that, then you may want to pass on it.
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