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$1 Gold Indian Princess With Extra Metal And PMD

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There seems to be an extra blob of gold on this old gold dollar coin. It's defaced the coin so I can't even read the date. Any idea what would cause this...?
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Used in jewelry at some point would be my guess.
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Right - Could have been a cuff link or stickpin, for example.
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Yes, it's ex-jewelry and that extra blob might not be gold.
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Definitely not!
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Silver test solution might take the solder blob off and reveal the date. It won't hurt the coin any more than it already has been.
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I think I can see 1858
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Silver test solution might take the solder blob off and reveal the date. It won't hurt the coin any more than it already has been.
- on the "won't hurt any more" part, at least.
Just don't use anything that might harm the gold - which of course still leaves you with a wide variety of options (including some quite strong acids).

I think we had a similar case come up on CCF a few years back?
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OK I'll look into finding someone who can remove it and post pics again once done. I guess taking it to a jeweller might be an idea, I'm sure they can help...
Thanks for all the info/advice!
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Silver test solution sells for about $5 a bottle on ebay. I've used it to deblob gold dollars several times. Sometimes it works, if the blob is silver solder. It hasn't affected the underlying gold coin.






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Silver test solution would work if it is silver solder, if it is gold solder I would not expect it to work. For gold solder you would use gold test solution but but the gold test solution will also attack the surface of the coin. But if the karet of the solder is lower than that of the coin it will attack the solder faster. If the solder is a significantly lower Karet you might be able to dilute the solution some so that it doesn't attack the coin but that would probably a little hit and miss.
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Here's a typical result on an 1860-S gold dollar.
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The test solution removed enough of the solder to see the 0 of the date and confirm that it was an 1860-S. But much of the solder was untouched.
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