2 New Finds- Susan B Anthony Dollar / SBA S 79 P Wide Rim And 1980-D "stitches"

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chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 11:27 am Pulled these 2 out of a roll of SBA'S last night (Local Bank Roll) A 79P Wide Rim/Near Date A 1980D with a peculiar marking under Susie's eye- looks like she took a couple of " Stitches". More than likely post-mint damage from some kind of "IMPLIMENT", but it looks . Edited by chuckster 125 09/11/2008 11:29 am Report this Post to the Staff

biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 11:30 am The 1980 is a hit from the reeding on another coin Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 11:35 am biokemist6: Thanks! I guess that's what she gets for hanging around with "Bad Company" Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 1:39 pm Hi, I have to say that I am not sure about the 1979 P shown above. It looks like a normal narrow rim coin with Die Deterioration effecting the rim. The "primary" edge of the rim on that coin is where it should be, that little sloped part that makes it look like a wide rim is Die Deterioration. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Thanks, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 4:04 pm Hi Bill: Below are pics posted by Coop showing the difference between a near date and regular coin. Considering the distance from the base of the number ONE to the primary edge on both coins, even considering any Die Deterioration, it looks like a wide rim/near date coin to me On the regular coin, the bottom of the ONE is much higher up, relative to the primary edge in comparison to this coin, and the bottom of the ONE on this coin is closer to the edge, despite any deterioration, from what I can determine. Please let me know what you think, I'd like to get it right. Chuck. Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 5:18 pm Bill: Here are 2 close-up pics of the edge and bottom of the ONE and last nine for comparison also with the regular coin to try and pin this down. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 09/11/2008 6:06 pm Quote: A 79P Wide Rim/Near Date I think this is a Wide Rim, a.k.a. Near Date SBA. I believe that the distance from date to rim is the best indicator. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 01:35 am I know exactly what they look like. I'm still not so sure. My white line is the rim, (admittedly, it could have been straighter, but it's in the right place) What is above it is the effect of Die Deterioration. The distance from the rim to the numerals still looks normal to me. You don't go from the deteriorated part to the numeral. That's not how these work. Can you take a picture of the entire obverse so I can see the whole thing. Edited by foundinrolls 09/12/2008 01:35 am Report this Post to the Staff
livingdinasaur Pillar of the Community United States 1571 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 03:15 am The only way to be sure of which you have is to get one of each, so you are positive which is which. Then take pictures of both, and then make an overlay. There is where you "separate the men from the boys". In other words, the overlay will show which is wide, and which is narrow. Dick Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 10:57 am I see what FIR is talking about now and I agree that seeing the whole obverse would give better perspective. The we can take LD's advice and compare it with other photos of the two varieties. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 12:18 pm Ok gang! Here are pictures of the Obverse and close-up pictures of the date near the rim and in particular the first number 1 and the last number 9 Based on these pictures I did a comparison to the layout of the regular coin (last 2 Pics) I printed out pics of both and lined them up, and from what I can determine they are different, and even though the Die Deterioration may have thrown things out of whack, the coin is indeed a WideRim/ Near Date 1979P SBA as the date is still closer to the rim than a normal date is. Opinions still welcomed please! Edited by chuckster 125 09/12/2008 12:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 12:36 pm It does seem to me that it is closer to the rim than the narrow rim would be, so I still think its a wide rim. However, I await FIR's opinion! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
foundinrolls Pillar of the Community United States 3507 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 1:47 pm Yeah, you guys saw what I meant. That's why I wanted to see the whole obverse. It is also why I said I wasn't sure. The perspective is better in a shot of the obverse. This is a Wide Rim (Near date) coin. Also a minor thing that is , at least to me, more visible in the obverse shot is the shape of the tip , of the tail, of the first 9. On theWide Rim coins, the tip of the tail is more rounded while on the normal coins, it is more blunt. Thanks for the extra work with the pictures:-), Bill Report this Post to the Staff
chuckster 125 Pillar of the Community United States 4113 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 2:35 pm Thank you to all for helping to get this coin properly attributed! Thanks Bill for going the extra mile to make sure it really was a 79 Wide Rim(Near Date) coin Chuck. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 2:39 pm Quote: Thanks for the extra work with the pictures:-), And thank you for the commentary! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
rockdude Pillar of the Community United States 1807 Posts	Posted 09/12/2008 7:15 pm It's been said "the coin is indeed a WideRim/ Near Date 1979P SBA as the date is still closer to the rim than a normal date is." Actually the date is in the same place as the far date, the rim is just wider. Report this Post to the Staff
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2 New Finds- Sbas 79 P Wide Rim And 1980-D "Stitches"