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New Member
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I have a 1780 8 reales that is stamped "FALSA" and "MANILLA CA.NL.MA" on the obverse. Do I have anything here? (Other than a neat coin.) Thanks! 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Probably a pair of counter stamps from a Philippine bank or merchant listed in the top C/S and indicating their correct opinion that it's a fake at the bottom.
Certainly a great black book item.
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Kushanshah 08/22/2019 11:29 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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 To the Forum.
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Pillar of the Community
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 to the Forum. Great counterstamp - and applied to Counterfeit types that are fairly well known. A wonderful addition to any counterfeit collection.
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you for the replies.
Where would be the best place for me to start looking for someone who would want to add this to their collection?
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New Member
United States
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Well, the rules say no counterfeits may be sold on the forum - No Exceptions. That's too bad because this is an awesome coin. I would suggest selling it on ebay. If you do, let us know. I'm sure there are several members who would be competitive bidders, myself included.
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Pillar of the Community
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New Member
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Hey, thanks for all the replies! I hope to get it put on ebay soon and will let you guys know. Thanks again and I apologize for the delayed response.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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OgReadMe I would definitely appreciate knowing when this coin will be sold. I would want to bid on this coin or at least follow the bidding on ebay. It is a fantastic coin which proves that the 1870 variety is NOT a punching error made in the 1790's as it was recently described by an auction house that will remain nameless.
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New Member
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Is it worth (or possible to) take steps to authenticate that it's a genuine contemporary counterfeit?
Something like PCGS or NGC for fakes?
edit: I will certainly be letting you know, swamperbob. Is it OK to post it on this thread when it happens?
Edited by OgReadMe 10/24/2019 10:22 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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TPG's do not slab fakes. It will come back in a platic flip marked "NOT GENUINE."
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New Member
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That's one the problems I have found in researching this. Even though it's a fake, it's genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
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It would do well in a Stacks/Bowers NYITL auction. Still time to consign. Call a guy name Vicken Yegparian. Send him some photos. Stacks/Bowers handles contemporary counterfeits of the period - Heritage DOES NOT since its their company policy and probably also these can;t be slabbed. The Robbins Collection of Canadian Blacksmith Coppers a very rare noted exception to their company auction listing rule since this consignor had much more regal issues to consign so they allowed these counterfeits. Stacks/Bowers has sold the RIngo Collection of counterfeit 8 Reales as an example. JPL
Edited by colonialjohn 10/28/2019 6:02 pm
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