1971 10 F Belgie What Caused This Around The Bust?

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Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 4:02 pm I have this 1971 10 Franc Belgie coin and on American coinage it might be classified as Die Deterioration Doubling However I am not seeing the indicators associated with that as nothing shows Die Deterioration on the fields on the obverse or reverse. Puzzled at this one and insight needed please. Edited by Jim0815 09/05/2019 4:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4404 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 5:09 pm Die Deterioration can look different on non-US coins as they may prepare their dies differently. So Die Deterioration is a strong possibility. P.S. Belgie means Belgium Report this Post to the Staff
Evan7 Pillar of the Community United States 1070 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 5:16 pm Interesting Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 5:19 pm Tanman, I'm going to send you a pic that makes me think it's not DDD. Still stumped as to why the die chip in the corner of the mouth. Edited by Jim0815 09/05/2019 5:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34418 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 5:57 pm Quote: Still stumped as to why the die chip in the corner of the mouth Isn't that just because the edge of the mouth is an area of high stress during the striking process? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74355 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 7:18 pm Machine Doubling? Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 7:25 pm Actually, tanman has it right. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74355 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 7:35 pm So it's Die Deterioration? That's pretty strange, but cool at the same time. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 7:56 pm Does the reverse show any indication of a clash? The way the anomaly conforms to the curves of the design says this is a product of abrasion. Widening and thinning in smooth arches where the design eather allowed or prevented the abrading tool to go. A deteriorating die would not act like this. The "chip" in the corner of the mouth is the kicker. It's not a chip but abrasion as well as that spot looks to be near the level of the field. Edited by stoneman227 09/05/2019 8:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 8:59 pm Before I posted this I sent Mike Diamond pics. He told me like tanman it was DDD, he said that they chrome plate their dies. After finding that out it makes perfect sense. Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4404 Posts	Posted 09/05/2019 10:13 pm Quote: he said that they chrome plate their dies Good to know. That definitely explains it, the chrome plating on the die is likely wearing off. That's a useful tidbit of info that I would have never known otherwise. What references out there have info on how non-US mints prepare their dies? Report this Post to the Staff
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