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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I failed to ask for clarification on a couple of extra issues:
1) a confirmation that this is not the reverse of an 1878 and
2) that this is or is not a proof and how to best convey the true patina through a photo as opposed to having in one's hand
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Bedrock of the Community
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based on these photos the highest points on the devices are missing luster. it appears the coin was cleaned and then lightly polished to hide it. you can see some clean marks right in front of the profile.
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Pillar of the Community
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...coin was cleaned Good catch. Upon rechecking the patina the obverse lower cheek section also has the same parallel cleaning (whizzing) striations. However, the cartwheel luster still radiates/moves in the cleaned field part in front of Liberty's eye. Does the loss of the cartwheel luster occur only with a 'chemical' cleaning and only sometimes with a very light/fine whizzing type of cleaning? |
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Bedrock of the Community
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In these pics, at least, the coin does not look original, I agree.
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Pillar of the Community
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Correct - not reverse of '78.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Rest in Peace
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Unc, details, improperly cleaned. Eye Appeal 4/10.
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Bedrock of the Community
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mdp - Tank job so far. Much better pics needed. Even your enlarged images do not show the surface details in the fields well enough to grade from.
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS details with those hairlines in the obverse field.
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Pillar of the Community
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Tank job so far @cf ...never heard of this expression before. what is your intent by using this? I realize that minute whizzing lines are difficult to capture but why does it really matter if the coin has already been detailed out by our group? Now, here's something that I'd like to find out. Can any cleaned or whizzed coin still make it to an MS state? Edited by mdpmedia
09/09/2019 1:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Unc. details, cleaned, Reverse of '79 (slanted top arrow feather) As to your questions: Quote:
Now, here's something that I'd like to find out. Can any cleaned or whizzed coin still make it to an MS state? Mint State describes a coin which has not been circulated as a medium of exchange, i.e. a coin which is in substantially the same condition as it was when it was struck at the Mint. In other words, if someone cleaned such a coin, it would no longer be Mint State, but would still be technically Uncirculated. Quote:
that this is or is not a proof Definitely not a proof by virtue of its manufacture at San Francisco and not Philadelphia, although a great many 1879-S dollars are available with prooflike surfaces and varying degrees of cameo contrast. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
09/09/2019 10:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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We're into the weeds here. Based on these pics, we seem to agree it is MS (Unc) details.
OP - Do you have better pics?
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Posted 09/08/2019 3:00 pm
