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New Member
United States
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Yup, and I imagine over time that price could potentially increase, especially if for whatever reason there were few 70s in the first 100.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Possibly could. If I get that I think I'm just going to sell and count it as a win. If someone can make more on it in the future then we both win
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Valued Member
United States
120 Posts |
I ordered mine on the 14th. It shipped by FEDEX Snailpost on the 19th. By the tracking it was to arrive on Friday the 29th then it was bumped to Monday Dec 2nd. Two other enrollments were shipped on the 21st, they are projected to arrive on Saturday the 30th.  I live in the Seattle area, they take it right by me to Burlington WA where they hand it off to USPS.
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Bedrock of the Community
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If anything does it'll likely be the 1-100 and likely more specially 1 or the signed one that was also signed at baltimore
Edited by basebal21 11/25/2019 4:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Its crazy that a piece of paper that has no semblance to when the the coin was made is worth that much money. Not that I'm going to say no if I get a hand singed one ;)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: If I decide to have it graded I ship it unopened? Yes if you want the COA certified as the one that came with the coin. Seems kind of odd to me that one would certify a certificate of authenticity. If you happen to get a signed one and don't send it in unopened, then they won't certify it. Apparently they don't have the ability to tell if the signature is authentic or not. So basically, you're paying for the certification that the box was sent to them sealed. Of course people can open and reseal old mint sets, so resealing a box is possible. But, they'll still certify it anyway. Imagine how much less money they'd make if they had the ability to actually authenticate a signature. Only a maximum of 100 people would be paying for the signatures on their COA's to be authenticated. The way they have it setup now, they make far more money by only being able to certify that the box showed up sealed. Quote: Do most experts here feel it should be sent in for grading to better protect against discoloration in mint packaging? I wouldn't consider myself an expert, but I'll give you my opinion from my collecting observations. Short term you're increasing the odds that the coin could ultimately end up with spots or finger prints on it. The 3rd party grading services generally do a good job of handing coins, but they use their bare hands and don't wear masks. People have had coins damaged in this manner. That said, assuming the coin isn't exposed to something negative during the grading process, the slabs provided by the grading services are much more effective at protecting the coins than the OGP. My suggestion is that if you want a slabbed coin, buy one that's been in the slab for a couple of years. This way you can be sure that it won't get spots due to mishandling during a recent certification. Quote: Yes if you want the COA graded as well. If you open it and have a signed COA you'll kick yourself for opening it. They actually grade the COA?
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United States
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They don't grade the COA ...they just include it (number) on the slab and encase the COA On the spots thing....they are VERY real. I am just finishing my yearly sales (keeping under the 200 Fed sales tax thing) and did a check of a couple hundred graded ASE both PCGS and NGC. I found an alarming number of proof coins that had developed milk spots..almos all 70 graded coins which sucks...and a crapload of San Fran COngrats and LESPS 70's With that said....I will go out on a limb and say AT LEAST 90% were PCGS graded ASE's ..mostly PF's and RP's...it was amazing...it made me totally go with NGC for grading and future purchases. I have over 100 ASE's available for sale with spots....and I didn't do my whole inventory BUT I learn. It was like a gut punch Maybe it is specific to my location, storage facilities and whatever BUT I would definitely pick NGC to grade my ERP friends. TOTALLY my experience....your experience my differ significantly...
Edited by Foxwoods Man 11/25/2019 5:18 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Only a maximum of 100 people would be paying for the signatures on their COA's to be authenticated No, many people want the COA number on the slab regardless of it it is signed or not. Quote: Short term you're increasing the odds that the coin could ultimately end up with spots or finger prints on it. The 3rd party grading services generally do a good job of handing coins, but they use their bare hands and don't wear masks. People have had coins damaged in this manner. Gloves are completely unnecessary and increase the chance of dropping coins. They also carry lint/dust etc. Freshly washed hands are the way to handle coins. Go pick up a brand new coin put your fingers all over it and then check it again next year and report how much it has changed. Most won't change at all. VERY few people have actually had anything happen to their coin in that many by the TPGs. Far more people try and blame them for it than what actually had occurred. Quote:With that said....I will go out on a limb and say AT LEAST 90% were PCGS graded ASE's I t's just luck of the draw. Milk spots are entirely a mint issue that can come on quickly or take time. It's a world wide mint issue too not just the US mint, Canada/Australia/France/GB etc all have the same issue. It's not even clear if storage methods make any difference nor is any public removal method known. PCGS has a bounty for 10k if you figure it out, but if you did figure it out you could make much more just doing it and not advertising how. It's believed to be something about the washing process at the mints but none of them seem to have been able to figure out how to stop it entirely. That said some years have been much worse than others. NGC 70's are also far more likely to try and be crossed to PCGS than the other way around. The PCGS slab actually is more environmentally resistant than the NGC one. The PCGS one is water resistant the NGC one makes no such claim. That said as far as anyone can really tell if the coin is going to milk spot it's going to happen and if it won't it wont
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mine arrived today. Didn't get my order through till the second day. My COA is 17686.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think we are going to get a lot of unboxing pictures over the next couple of days.
So question what % of the people on here tried and got one and what % didn't? I'm thinking 60% got one and 40% didn't, but we may be biased toward the ones that got one as those people are posting. Thoughts?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I'm thinking 60% got one and 40% didn't, but we may be biased toward the ones that got one as those people are posting. Thoughts? Yup, I was fortunate to get one on the second day (though, it has yet to arrive) but had I not I don't think I'd be visiting this thread very much.
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New Member
United States
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Well, ordered mine on the 15th and just received coin about two hours ago. Never had plans to grade as I love the coin in the OGP and it's getting passed down to my son.
My COA is 17226.
I must say, what an awesome beautiful looking coin. I am thrilled to be in possession of one. My son (14) is impressed with it and likes it a lot.
Another reason to keep it is, now every time I take it out to look at it I'll always remember the story behind getting it. The anticipation before the 14th, the low of not getting one on the 14th, the skepticism of whether they will be available at 7:30am on the 15th, the absolute THRILL of actually getting one the morning of the 15th and then the anticipation of waiting for it to arrive. Holy smokes...what a roller coaster of emotions!
Very thankful that it ended happily for me. Wish it were the same for everyone who wanted one.
I'll say it one last time...can't thank you enough Big-Kingdom for the 7:30am tip. I would not have mine if it weren't for your post.
Good evening to all!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would say maybe less than 20% of the people who wanted this coin on the first day was able to snag one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I think we are going to get a lot of unboxing pictures over the next couple of days. Good!
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